Dennis Rodman: "LeBron James would be ‘average player’ in late ’80s or early ’90s"

[dh86]

Dominique Wilkins averaged 27.8 ppg, 7.1 rebs, 3.1 assists, 1.4 stls from 87-92 and was never a 1st Team All-NBAer and made the 2nd Team All-NBA only 3x during that time period (6 years)

on the other hand

Kevin Durant has averaged 26.6 ppg, 6.8 rebs, 3.1 assts, and 1.3 stls for his career (6 years) and is a 4x All-NBA 1st Teamer.



I guess it really does make a difference when you are battling the GOATS in their prime season in and season out



Dennis Rodman

Dominique averaged 30.7 ppg in 1988, teams in 1988 averaged 99.6 possessions and averaged 108 ppg.

Durant averaged 30.1 ppg in 2010, teams averaged 92.7 possessions and averaged 100.4 ppg.

Scoring as a whole went down pretty uniformly essentially around MJ first championship making it a more difficult feat to average 30 ppg in todays era as there are less possessions.

In terms of batting the "GOATS", , Nique battled with Jordan and Drexler......then also Danny Ainge, Fat Lever, Mark Aguirre, and Alvin Robertson on the wings. All All-Stars from the era.

 

[Taadow]

Dominique averaged 30.7 ppg in 1988, teams in 1988 averaged 99.6 possessions and averaged 108 ppg.

Durant averaged 30.1 ppg in 2010, teams averaged 92.7 possessions and averaged 100.4 ppg.

Scoring as a whole went down pretty uniformly essentially around MJ first championship making it a more difficult feat to average 30 ppg in todays era as there are less possessions.

In terms of batting the "GOATS", , Nique battled with Jordan and Drexler......then also Danny Ainge, Fat Lever, Mark Aguirre, and Alvin Robertson on the wings. All All-Stars from the era.

Uh, those dude you talmbat in the latter part were all-stars like once or twice...and played on the bench when they got to better teams - except for Alvin Robertson who the best defender of Michael Jordan of all-time (in Jordan's words).

 

[R=G]

Well alot of people couldn't be who they are playing in the prime Jordan era...Kobe/Bron/Tony Parker...I thought everyone kind of accepted that. Another reason why I respect Shaq as a once in a lifetime talent..he's gonna matter no matter what..the era...the defender...he's gonna dominate games one way or another. Wilt, Russel? They would of never became who they became if they played Shaq in their prime.

 

[ghostwriterx]

Crazy thing that Kobe and Tim Duncan aint even FROM LeBron's era They are both past their primes (which is the 2000's era) but the league is so watered down in the 2010s that they are BY FAR STILL the best players at their positions.

Those late 80s/early 90s rosters featured nothing but HOFers IN THEIR PRIME:mynikka:

Duncan's last ring was against Lebron. Kobe got his first Finals MVP after that. Their eras clearly overlap. Same with Garnett, Pierce, Ray, Dirk, Tmac, Nash, Yao etc.

 

[dh86]

Why are Melo and Paul in the Hall Of Fame if they retire right now?

Carmelo has a career 25 ppg, a scoring title, and 6 all star appearances over 10 years. What player with that and is elgible isnt in the Hall? Hes easily a better candidate than Mullin or Reggie Miller.

Chris Paul has spent the past half decade being an elite player on the all NBA and all defense teams, given the amount of players that are in never having been at that top level in their lives, Chris Paul would certainly be in. Calvin Murphy is in, right? The best eligible guards not in are probably JoJo White and Tim Hardaway and Chris already surpassed both.

 

[dh86]

Uh, those dude you talmbat in the latter part were all-stars like once or twice...and played on the bench when they got to better teams - except for Alvin Robertson who the best defender of Michael Jordan of all-time (in Jordan's words).

Outside of the 5-6 times he saw Michael Jordan per season at the time, what all time greats were Dominique Wilkins seeing on the wings? The depth in that era was at Center.

 

[Taadow]

Outside of the 5-6 times he saw Michael Jordan per season at the time, what all time greats were Dominique Wilkins seeing on the wings? The depth in that era was at Center.

Bird
Mullin
Pippen
Drexler
Dumars
Dantley
English
Benard King

 

[Taadow]

Carmelo has a career 25 ppg, a scoring title, and 6 all star appearances over 10 years. What player with that and is elgible isnt in the Hall? Hes easily a better candidate than Mullin or Reggie Miller.

Chris Paul has spent the past half decade being an elite player on the all NBA and all defense teams, given the amount of players that are in never having been at that top level in their lives, Chris Paul would certainly be in. Calvin Murphy is in, right? The best eligible guards not in are probably JoJo White and Tim Hardaway and Chris already surpassed both.

We'll agree to disagree on all of this.

 

[holidayinn21]

Wilt, Russel? They would of never became who they became if they played Shaq in their prime.

yeah, this is completely inaccurate and borderline ignorant.

 

[R=G]

yeah, this is completely inaccurate and borderline ignorant.

Smart response. Doesn't have a inkling of truth to it but that's the way most of these fake debated comparison threads go. Shaq would of dominated Russel and there's no Russel team in history that can match Shaq's 01 squad.

 

[Newzz]

KD is not a HOFer ? Melo is not ? Griffin is not ? Westbrook is not ? D Wade and Howard are not ?


Sit down breh breh

Hell no. Carmelo after 10 years is not HOFer caliber currently

Blake Griffin is not a HOF talent currently

Howard after 9 years is not a HOF talent currently

Wade IS though. I missed him trying to prove my point about this era vs the late 80s/early 90s

 

[dh86]

Hell no. Carmelo after 10 years is not HOFer caliber currently

Blake Griffin is not a HOF talent currently

Howard after 9 years is not a HOF talent currently

Wade IS though. I missed him trying to prove my point about this era vs the late 80s/early 90s

Whos ever averaged 25 over a decade and not in the Hall?

 

[Newzz]

Why no name 3rd team from those years as well? Would destroy your argument? No pro Terry Cummings argument from you? Durant, Melo, Wade, Paul and Parker are all in the Hall of Fame if they retire right now. Today. Thus its pretty much the same ratio of Hall of Fame talent. That era had better centers, this era has better everything else. Thanks.

Kevin Johnson was better than Chris Paul.



KJ is not a HOFer.....neither is Tim Hardaway. Why do you think it's a lock that CP3 gets in?


Carmelo Anthony does not have a HOF resume.

Kevin Durant is HOF scoring talent, but so was T-Mac....to early to call.

Dwyane Wade is a HOFer

 

[Newzz]

Duncan's last ring was against Lebron. Kobe got his first Finals MVP after that. Their eras clearly overlap. Same with Garnett, Pierce, Ray, Dirk, Tmac, Nash, Yao etc.

Their career's overlap like Wilt Chamberlain's and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.


Wilt was not from Kareem's era and was at the twilight of his prime once Kareem entered the NBA. Kobe's prime ended in 2010 (athletically) when LeBron was only a 6 year pro while Tim Duncan started his decline in 2010 as well (evidenced by the fact Duncan only put up 13 pts a game in 2011 and 12 pts a game in the playoffs).


Kobe and Tim Duncan are 2 of the greatest players to ever play the game of basketball. At this point, they are BY FAR the best 2 players at their position.....and they arent even in their athletic primes. They are dominating off of pure basketball IQ and skill.


Their era's were the late 90s and 2000s. To see them both still dominating 3 decades in is crazy and speaks VOLUMES on the level of competition in LeBron's era of the NBA.

 

[Newzz]

Whos ever averaged 25 over a decade and not in the Hall?

If Allen Iverson doesnt get in, which the media may not let him in, with a CAREER 26.6 ppg....than Carmelo can forget about it.


He's done way less than AI had done at this point of his career and is nothing but a scorer.


He doesnt have a HOF resume.


Answer this....Who has ever averaged 25 over a decade, but yet only made it out of the 1st round of the playoffs 2 times in that time period?


He doesnt have the resume to be a HOFer yet