Derek Fisher FIRED per ESPN

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When was i provened wrong? He was the issue. We still cleaning up his bullshyt. He created a culture in this franchise that next coach has to clean up. Your harden blinders wont let you see it.
What the hell does this have to do with Harden? He's basically the only piece on your team that's worth anything.

You've already been proven wrong. You said/insinuated that they would start winning, playing with more effort and that they had the roster to win a title - as you can this has been far from the case. If he was the issue, why do y'all still look like garbage? Why are y'all still inconsistent? Why are y'all still having mental lapses on defense? Why are y'all still not playing with consistent effort? Why can't the players play collectively as a unit?

The same problems are there when McHale was coach at the start of the season. How can you not see this?
 

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Extremely competitive? So that means a job for life? He was not doing anything with the roster last year, oh wait they were tanking, this year Melo hurt and rookie is inconsistent? What about next year and the year after ? What excuse then? Thibs got the Bulls to the playoffs with Rose hurt almost the last 3 years. Kerr got Warriors by building what he had into a championship level team. He improved them. Did Fisher improve the Knicks anyway? I let you get on your Coli militant soapbox and say Fisher was coach of the year material and the white man took his dream away from him. Extremely competitive means almost the 8 sead and one round playoff sweep and offseason retooling now? Foh

Thibbs lost in the 1st round in 5 to the Wizards with an injured roster. It's funny how that' kool for Thibbs and not Fish. This roster is also injured and not as talented as the Bulls were. Thibbs playing his roster hurt and too many minutes got them injured even further. He can't run the Triangle, has no idea how to run an offense, and runs his players in the ground. All he will do is make them play hard and make them play defense. They already do that.

Kerr inherited a roster that Jackson greatly improved and they didn't have to play anyone in the playoffs under Kerr. Klay couldn't even play defense before Jackson came on board. Jackson got them to beat stacked teams in their own buildings (the Miami Heat's big 3) by developing their backcourt into the Splash Brothers and improving their defense tremendously. The Warriors were coming, with or without Kerr. They don't even play any defense under Kerr anymore and they didn't under Walton. All they do is outscore teams now. They won't keep their regular season ppg average in the post-season. They didn't last post-season. A depleted Cavs team held them 10 points below their average.

Of course Fisher didn't "improve" NY. You can't "improve" a roster you never had. What about the years after 'Melo's knee fully heals and the rook becomes consistent? Who says Fish would need an excuse?

Phil brings in a bunch of players that don't fit his offense, then forces Fish to force that offense on personnel that don't fit it. But people wanna blame everyone but Phil. 'Melo, Jose, Sasha, Arron, Fish, etc, are blamed but not the rookie exec who made rookie exec trash moves. All that "it's about the process, not the playoffs and results" is Zen babel, straight out of Phil's religions. Fish was set up to fail and then scapegoated. It's an excuse to fire another Afrikan coach (especially when Blatt was replaced by an Afrikan). No coach will get them to the playoffs running Phil's offense with this roster. They only way NY makes the playoffs is if Phil lets the new coach run an offense that fits the roster (like some Knicks fans have noted) or if Phil changes the roster.

Walton is fool's gold with this roster. As I said, the Warriors didn't even play defense under him; they just outscored teams. This roster won't do that and again, the Warriors won't do it in the post-season. On top of that, NY had injuries. It's a disgrace.
 
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Skeptical of what exactly?

The Bulls' postseason failures have been down to Thibs covering up for the lack of talent - getting by on effort and game-planning throughout the regular season. Like Stevens in Boston, he'll have those Celtics squads constantly fighting above their weight with good RS records but they won't do shyt in the playoffs because they don't have the right personnel.

Skeptical of how Rose, Noah, Deng and a handful of others looked by the end of a season under him. You want to blame lack of depth and the need to pump these guys' minutes in order to be competitive that's cool; but I'd rather have healthier players and a 6 seed than an injured, limping 2 seed into the playoffs. But like I said, I'm literally skeptical of EVERYONE, so no need to get defensive about it.
 

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They should hire thibs. He will run them into the ground but they will play hard, hustle, and play defense. Thibs took bums into the playoffs as a decent seed. Lol@Shaw and Walton. Shaw ruined a solid nuggets squad to the point they quit on him. It's not proven that Walton can coach yet.

Thibbs lost in the 1st round 5 to the Wizards with a team that is just as injured, but more talented than NY and he doesn't know how to run the Triangle or any other offense.
 
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Thibbs lost in the 1st round in 5 to the Wizards with an injured roster. It's funny how that' kool for Thibbs and not Fish. This roster is also injured and not as talented as the Bulls were. Thibbs playing his roster hurt and too many minutes got them injured even further. He can't run the Triangle, has no idea how to run an offense, and runs his players in the ground. All he will do is make them play hard and make them play defense. They already do that.
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Why do you constantly make up shyt? The Bulls had one of the worst starting lineups/rosters in the league -
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No starter averaged over 14 ppg, with Carlos Boozer as the main option averaging 13.7 ppg and being a defensive sieve - yet they still managed to win 48 games. Give Thibs - Melo, Afflalo, Porzingis, Lopez, D-Will, Galloway, Thomas and Calderon and they'd be top-4 in the East right now.
 

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I dunno...I dont want to make this completely about race, but I cant shake a 'last one hired; first one fired' vibe I get from this.

Fish only really had a half a season. Last year they were obviously tanking. How is that enough time to evaluate his worth?

Dont really understand the logic of not allowing him to finish out the year. The backcourt is a complete joke, and the team is struggling more from a personnel standpoint than x' and o's. Phil needs to upgrade this team and not scapegoat.

That said, I do think Fisher's "its all about the process and making the playoffs isnt a concern" comment definitely ruffled some feathers, but that would be carelessly impulsive if he was fired over that.

The bolded is Zen babel straight out of Phil's religions. Does that not sound just like Phil? :comeon:
 
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Thibbs lost in the 1st round 5 to the Wizards with a team that is just as injured, but more talented than NY and he doesn't know how to run the Triangle or any other offense.
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AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ this team being more talented than the Knicks current squad. Bulls were without their two best offensive players for pretty much the entire season yet somehow the Knicks are "just as injured". Thibs had this team winning 48 games without Rose and Deng purely off effort and defense.
 
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