Derek Jeter honors Muhammad Ali for living the life he never would

[TheNig]

It's not only about Jeter.
But it's not only about "everyone" because that's an ambiguous way to deflect from the topic.

Ali was great PRECISELY because he did speak out.
Most of you all commented in his RIP thread about his impact because of it.

And yet when the questioning of why other great athletes with arguably a much greater platform than Ali ever had don't choose to address anything EVER (goodness, just once would be nice) you guys have a problem with it?

You all commend Ali for setting this incredible example and path, and yet you hold NOBODY to the fire for not actually walking it? Especially the biggest baseball star of the last 30 years?

Kobe got blasted for mis-speaking about Trayvon. LeBron was looked at real funny when he backpeddled on Tamir Rice. So don't pretend it's not happening.

The problem I have is the circumstance and the focus of the article. This article should never had been written. The writer obviously doesn't care about Jeter and is focus entirely too much on him and not what led Jeter to say what he said.

 

[Remote]

Kobe got blasted for mis-speaking about Trayvon. LeBron was looked at real funny when he backpeddled on Tamir Rice. So don't pretend it's not happening.

The problem I have is the circumstance and the focus of the article. This article should never had been written. The writer obviously doesn't care about Jeter and is focus entirely too much on him and not what led Jeter to say what he said.

Who cares about whether a writer likes or dislikes a player if what he's writing is true?

 

[TheNig]

Who cares about whether a writer likes or dislikes a player if what he's writing is true?

You can insert any athletes name in there and it would be true. Why just Jeter?

 

[Foxmulder]

Pathetic article. Pathetic thread.

 

[Remote]

You can insert any athletes name in there and it would be true. Why just Jeter?

Because of what he wrote after Ali died given how he has almost nothing in common with Muhammad Ali at all.
Why wouldn't a NY columnist address it?

 

[the cac mamba]

It's not only about Jeter.
But it's not only about "everyone" because that's an ambiguous way to deflect from the topic.

Ali was great PRECISELY because he did speak out.
Most of you all commented in his RIP thread about his impact because of it.

And yet when the questioning of why other great athletes with arguably a much greater platform than Ali ever had don't choose to address anything EVER (goodness, just once would be nice) you guys have a problem with it?

You all commend Ali for setting this incredible example and path, and yet you hold NOBODY to the fire for not actually walking it? Especially the biggest baseball star of the last 30 years?

And with regard to @the cac mamba who said:



So nothing Ali ever did mattered?
Nothing Jim Brown ever did mattered?
Nothing Kareem Abdul Jabbar ever did mattered?
Nothing Bill Russell ever did mattered?
Nothing Pat Tillman ever did mattered?

on the field? no. its grown men running toward some paint

why would i say that what they did OFF the field didnt matter? thats ridiculous

 

[PhonZhi]

The thing about athletes speaking up is they have a platform to voice their minds on topics, they have sections of papers, magazines, tv networks all dedicated to them yet they say nothing.
Ali let go of his livelihood, he had no other way to live besides boxing, these new cats have contracts and enough talent to not worry bout being cut, but they're scared of messing up their extra money.
Not everybody is built like Ali or Kareem or Jim Brown, but you have to wonder a little bit as to why the new age is so afraid to speak up when they have more power than ever.

The answer is simple: we're too integrated now. The modern-day black athlete is content. The modern-day black athlete doesn't see a problem with society and race relations. The modern-day black athlete has little to no racial pride and knowledge of self and past history.

Its actually a bit silly to think that an athlete in this day an age would even have the AWARENESS to speak on certain things. We're in a totally different time. There will probably NEVER be another black athlete with the consciousness to want to use his platform to inspire his people. That would take sacrifice, something nobody is willing to do today.

 

[TheNig]

Because of what he wrote after Ali died given how he has almost nothing in common with Muhammad Ali at all.
Why wouldn't a NY columnist address it?

And none of these athletes today are anything like Ali. So what was the point?

 

[Remote]

And none of these athletes today are anything like Ali. So what was the point?

You can't be this simple

 

[the cac mamba]

True nobody owes anybody shyt in this world but standing up in something you believe(especially when you are seeing boys, men and women that look just like you being murdered with no consequences or thought) says a lot about your character and the power of your platform. Ali has become the mythical negro like MLK for the likes of whites and every other non black.
Muthafukkas are rewriting history knowing damn well they hated this black man for years because he was loud, aggressive and spoke the truth.
You are free to say, think and have your own opinion but when these athletes and Stars have millions of dollars, the fingers on the pulse of the youth(nobody is saying "Hey I want to be like Melvin the mailman because he works hard and always treats people well"), kids are looking at the fast money and a way out of the hellhole America created with no opportunities, no education and they still killing black folks like back in the 50s and 60s'. Athletes and Entertainers have so much more in terms of economic power to were they can pool resources and help(on the low or out front) to make a change in the political realm and in the community. That's the problem. nikkas are scared and have become castrated because of paper. Jim Brown, Ali, Kareem and some many others stayed give out work.
But I don't expect a white person to see this because you muthafukkas don't really have anything to worry about except the new artisian mustard coming out on Wednesday.

all i said was that while athletes should be commended for speaking out, i dont diss them for not speaking out like this article does

and if you want to, then you're right, im not really gonna speak on it because frankly there are less issues that a white athlete would need to speak on

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Journalists have had it out for him ever since he started Player's Tribune. He played them for two decades and they're sour his next move after that was to cut them out of the picture entirely.

 

[Remote]

on the field? no. its grown men running toward some paint

why would i say that what they did OFF the field didnt matter? thats ridiculous

Obviously no player is going to say anything on the field.
What kind of shyt is this? You think Adrian Gonzalez is gonna hit a HR and whip out a banner from his back pocket saying "F-Donald Trump" ??

Of course they're going to say it off the field. And plenty of athletes have done things off the field and had an impact.

 

[Remote]

Journalists have had it out for him ever since he started Player's Tribune. He played them for two decades and they're sour his next move after that was to cut them out of the picture entirely.

Out for him? Out for Jeter?
He's the most protected athlete probably going back 50 years.

 

[the cac mamba]

Obviously no player is going to say anything on the field.
What kind of shyt is this? You think Adrian Gonzalez is gonna hit a HR and whip out a banner from his back pocket saying "F-Donald Trump" ??

Of course they're going to say it off the field. And plenty of athletes have done things off the field and had an impact.

im not really sure where this broke off breh

i mean is what you're saying that every athlete has an obligation to speak out, like this article is saying? i dont feel that way, because theyre just athletes that was my only point

 

[tremonthustler1]

Would it have been nice had Jeter or anyone taken more of a stance on things? Sure. Can I blame them for not doing so and taking care of their family first? Hell no.

Nowadays, our respect as a collective doesn't mean much anymore. We're so quick to turn on people, troll for the lulz, and think we're riding for someone or something by hashtagging #TeamWhatever. I can't go out of my way to shame those for not wanting to risk more just to appease us turncoats when there's only so much to gain by doing so.