Describe your beef with Third Way democrats in here

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I've heard some uber leftists on here denigrate the apparent practicality of Third Way democrats as being "traitors" and shills...but I think theres more to governance than hardening extremists when it comes to being an effective leader.

Whats your beef with Third Way-ers?
 

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Because on economics and government you all are to the right. Too friendly to big business, outsourcing of govt is pushed and the working class suffers.

There's no push for change for the bottom 99%.

You may tout populist lines but it's all BS.

Oh and on foreign policy you're becoming the new neocons.
 

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They're essentially Reagan Republicans who (1) are atheists, (2) don't own guns, and (3) preach a slick, corporate brand of "diversity" that renders genuine discussions on race meaningless.
This is a good summary

My main gripe with them is the same as my gripe with any other ideologists- all govt accountability goes out the window to further their agendas. @ThreeLetterAgency would accuse his own mother of terrorism before criticizing or questioning the establishment
 

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Because on economics and government you all are to the right. Too friendly to big business, outsourcing of govt is pushed and the working class suffers.

There's no push for change for the bottom 99%.

You may tout populist lines but it's all BS.

Oh and on foreign policy you're becoming the new neocons.
Robert Kagan and Other Neocons Are Backing Hillary Clinton

“I would say all Republican foreign policy professionals are anti-Trump,” leading neoconservative Robert Kagan told a group gathered around him, groupie-style, at a “foreign policy professionals for Hillary” fundraiser I attended last week. “I would say that a majority of people in my circle will vote for Hillary.”

As the co-founder of the neoconservative think tank Project for the New American Century, Kagan played a leading role in pushing for America’s unilateral invasion of Iraq and insisted for years afterward that it had turned out great.

Despite the catastrophic effects of that war, Kagan insisted at last week’s fundraiser that U.S. foreign policy over the last 25 years has been “an extraordinary success.”
 

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They're essentially Reagan Republicans who (1) are atheists, (2) don't own guns, and (3) preach a slick, corporate brand of "diversity" that renders genuine discussions on race meaningless.
Eh...they're more economically liberal than reaganites. They're just not hardline socialists.
 

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Because on economics and government you all are to the right. Too friendly to big business, outsourcing of govt is pushed and the working class suffers.

There's no push for change for the bottom 99%.

You may tout populist lines but it's all BS.

Oh and on foreign policy you're becoming the new neocons.

1. Economics...not necessarily true. They want to reign in the welfare state, but do believe in many aspects of basic economic stability for the masses

2. Big business employs a majority of the country...gotta make some concessions or you're gonna have more companies setting up in places like Ireland.

3. No push for change for the bottom? Thats....jsut not true.

4. Whats wrong with their foreign policy? I mean at some point we see what happens (look around) when theres a vacuum in place. One day, you're apologizing for past errors and the next thing you can't secure markets for your goods.
 

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This is a good summary

My main gripe with them is the same as my gripe with any other ideologists- all govt accountability goes out the window to further their agendas. @ThreeLetterAgency would accuse his own mother of terrorism before criticizing or questioning the establishment
...thats, not true. And I find it ironic you ignore many of the criticisms I have of government and regulatory efforts.

in fact, I'm pretty sure you ignore damn near ANY thing I've ever said that happens to disprove this very meme/notion you have about my views.

You're continually wrong about what I actually think.

I'm just trying to have some dialogue here and you're levying accusations without any real analysis.
 
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