Destiny 2 | PS4/XB1/PC | Out Now

[Hood Critic]

Why? I'm just talking about the marketing behind it.
Anyone that has played an MMO knows Destiny is NOT an MMO by any stretch at all.
How can you call a 12 player game an MMO?
There isn't even any social aspect to the social areas. The times you go to the tower you never hear everyone talking to each other. There is literally 0 interaction between players outside of your own party of 3 - 6 players. That isn't what an MMO is like.
Games like warcraft can have 30 people on screen all talking to each other and then heading out together to go run missions. That's what makes an MMO so addictive. It's that incredibly large social aspect of it.
Calling Destiny an MMO is like when those dummies that made No Man's Sky claimed that the game was "multiplayer".
It's a false title that Bungie is trying to use to grossly exaggerate the multiplayer aspect of the game.
My point is, if Bungie stopped pretending Destiny is something other than what it is, the game would be received better overall.
I highly doubt the people that like Destiny are playing it solely because they "THINK" the game is an MMO, and if they were told the truth they would leave.

It's not a traditional MMO but it has many MMO elements and if Bungie moves away from those concepts people will feel Bungie is abandoning the game.

They are just going to have to make some major changes in the upcoming DLCs and prior. I'm glad I fell into the pre-purchase DLC trap with The Division because it taught me to never pre-purchase DLCs again.

 

[The D-List Vet]

It's not a traditional MMO but it has many MMO elements and if Bungie moves away from those concepts people will feel Bungie is abandoning the game.

They are just going to have to make some major changes in the upcoming DLCs and prior. I'm glad I fell into the pre-purchase DLC trap with The Division because it taught me to never pre-purchase DLCs again.

god damn man the wasted $100 that could have went else where. but i did end up meeting a good ass person who is a great friend and we play every game together even talk about single player games and RPG's

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

It's not a traditional MMO but it has many MMO elements and if Bungie moves away from those concepts people will feel Bungie is abandoning the game.

They are just going to have to make some major changes in the upcoming DLCs and prior. I'm glad I fell into the pre-purchase DLC trap with The Division because it taught me to never pre-purchase DLCs again.

What are the "many MMO elements" Destiny has?
I think people are confusing RPG with MMO.
How can Destiny be called an MMO when the most you can play with is 6 vs 6.
Battlefield 1 has 32 vs 32. It also has the unlocking guns and loot crate elements similar to what Destiny accomplishes yet NO ONE is calling Battlefield an MMO.

SN: I'm not defending Destiny blindly or mad, or anything like that. I'm just saying, I feel like the game is being criticized against a genre that it isn't even a part of.

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

Massively multiplayer online game
A massively multiplayer online game (MMOG, or more commonly, MMO) is an online game which is capable of supporting large numbers of players, typically from hundreds to thousands, simultaneously in the same instance (or world).[1] MMOs usually feature a huge, persistent open world, although some games differ. These games can be found for most network-capable platforms, including the personal computer, video game console, or smartphones and other mobile devices.

MMOs can enable players to cooperate and compete with each other on a large scale, and sometimes to interact meaningfully with people around the world. They include a variety of gameplay types, representing many video game genres.

Massively multiplayer online game - Wikipedia

There is no way anyone could understand what an MMO is and claim Destiny is an MMO, or is even similar to an MMO.

 

[Hood Critic]

What are the "many MMO elements" Destiny has?
I think people are confusing RPG with MMO.
How can Destiny be called an MMO when the most you can play with is 6 vs 6.
Battlefield 1 has 32 vs 32. It also has the unlocking guns and loot crate elements similar to what Destiny accomplishes yet NO ONE is calling Battlefield an MMO.

SN: I'm not defending Destiny blindly or mad, or anything like that. I'm just saying, I feel like the game is being criticized against a genre that it isn't even a part of.

You're focusing on size (massive multi-) but that isn't the only thing that defines an MMO. And size really refers to the world/realm in which concurrent play takes place.

- Character creation/customization (though limited)
- Instance based zones/areas
- Player communication (though we like to use PSN parties, you can teamchat within D2 with quite a few people)
- It has to be played online
- Coordinated/Grouped player based content
- Currency markets (planet and tower vendors, Xur, etc)

You can call D2 a hybrid MMO or MMOFPS what a lot of folks refer to it as but you can't outright say it isn't a MMO.

 

[The D-List Vet]

@Hood Critic and @Kamikaze Revy Destiny in the truest sense is not a MMORPG, but its kinda like a MMORPG LITE..... it scratches that itch but it will truly never be a MMORPG

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

You're focusing on size (massive multi-) but that isn't the only thing that defines an MMO. And size really refers to the world/realm in which concurrent play takes place.

- Character creation/customization (though limited)
- Instance based zones/areas
- Player communication (though we like to use PSN parties, you can teamchat within D2 with quite a few people)
- It has to be played online
- Coordinated/Grouped player based content
- Currency markets (planet and tower vendors, Xur, etc)

You can call D2 a hybrid MMO or MMOFPS what a lot of folks refer to it as but you can't outright say it isn't a MMO.

Breh the term MMO refers SPECIFICALLY to the amount of players. Otherwise the game is just a regular game with a regular online component.

- Character creation/customization (though limited) TONS of games have this. NBA 2K, Endless RPGs, Fighting Games, Etc.
- Instance based zones/areas These are just levels presented in a free flowing format. RPGs have been doing this forever.
- Player communication (though we like to use PSN parties, you can teamchat within D2 with quite a few people) Player communication is limited to the people in your party. An MMO you communicate with everyone you come across freely.
- It has to be played online There are a ton of games that HAVE to be played online. Look at Gran Turismo. That game has to be connected online to play the SINGLE PLAYER
- Coordinated/Grouped player based content This is a loose requirement that can literally be applied to almost ANY multiplayer game
- Currency markets (planet and tower vendors, Xur, etc) Again, a ton of games have this. Diablo has this.

I provided the actual definition of an MMO.
You applied different elements seen across hundreds of other games and created your own definition to fit Destiny into. (Which is the same thing Bungie has done, and continues to do).

 

[itsyoung!!]

I sank a ton of hours into WOW and Guild Wars so I know what an MMO REALLY is.
When I see Destiny called an MMO I'm always confused as hell.
Destiny is dope, but it can't be compared to ANY MMO by any stretch at all.
Imagine the Halo setting and graphics/presentation, with the RPG elements of Borderlands, and the loot elements of Diablo. Combine those 3 and you have Destiny.

The campaign can easily be played alone or with up to 2 other players cooperatively. (Playing the campaign with 2 other people is what I enjoy the most).
There is a multiplayer competitive mode called "The Crucible" which is essentially a playlist of 6 vs 6 team death match, and king of the hill variant, and a mode where you arm a bomb and defend it.
The raid, which is essentially the end game content (or true final boss, however you want to see it), is a 6 player cooperative series of puzzles and boss fights. This is the portion of the game players seem to feel they have bragging rights for conquering.
There is also a series a strikes, which are specialized missions with a timer where you have to go up against much harder enemy AI. These are designed for 3 players.

While you're off doing missions or challenges, you'll pick up items that can only be unlocked at the 2 social areas of the game; The Farm and The Tower. In these 2 places you'll see maybe 20 other players. None of them can interact with each other outside of a few emotes. Everyone is in the areas for the sole purpose of upgrading their gear and getting back to the game.

If you look at the game like a regular FPS instead of an MMO, you'll see the game is head and shoulders above its competition in terms of content.
The people that are complaining about there being "nothing to do" once you beat the raid, are of the crowd that believes (or believed) that Destiny is an MMO.

Guild Wars 2 has a new expansion or its coming out, I havnt checked yet, just saw an ad for it

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

@Hood Critic and @Kamikaze Revy Destiny in the truest sense is not a MMORPG, but its kinda like a MMORPG LITE..... it scratches that itch but it will truly never be a MMORPG

If Destiny is an MMO lite then literally EVERY game with more than 6 players online is an MMO.
You guys are ignoring that fact that an MMO refers only to the player count.
An MMO can include many facets but of other genres, but what defines it as an MMO is the player count.
If we're going to split hairs to define the game, then it should be called an OFPSRPG (Online First Person Shooter Role Playing Game).
Completely remove the MM part of the genre because that seems to be the part critics are complaining about the most.
There's no way anyone is gonna tell me a 6 player game is an MMO. (Also while ignoring that Battlefield has teams of 32 players)

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

Guild Wars 2 has a new expansion or its coming out, I havnt checked yet, just saw an ad for it

I didn't play guild wars 2 nearly as much as I played WOW. I was burnt out on MMOs by the time GW2 came out. From what I played, I did end up liking it a lot and saw the potential in it to compete with WOW on a game play standpoint at least.

 

[lutha]

Tomorrow night...we going to run.

Me, you, @slikkp, @Theolodius_Black and we can recruit a couple randos or grab some clan folk.

depending on the time, i'm down to help....got 3 characters, so i'm trying to get back to running through that shyt at least 3 times a week...

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

depending on the time, i'm down to help....got 3 characters, so i'm trying to get back to running through that shyt at least 3 times a week...

Don't run anything with @Hood Critic . He doesn't even know what game he's playing.

 

[lutha]

I started my third character last night. I pretty much decided I’m gonna platinum the game and then put it down for a bit. Evil within came out and I haven’t touched it messing around with this game.

not touching other games?...welcome to that destiny life lol.....

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

not touching other games?...welcome to that destiny life lol.....

For real breh. It's weird because I didn't click with the first Destiny at all like that, but Destiny 2 has the cobra clutch on my attention these days as much as I want to get away from it.
(I actually been meaning to finish cuphead because the game is so short but when I sit down to actually play a game I reach for the PS4 controller instead of the XB1. )

 

[lutha]

It's cool.


LEt me know if you plan on raiding later this week

they seem to be trying to raid tonight, see if you can get a spot....byt the time i get home, yall will probably already be in there...