Destiny's Child - Nuclear (Prod. Pharrell)

Harry B

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I agree that he was one of the first to start getting creative with it on a mainstream level, but Miguel has always had his own style and has been making creative R&B for a long time. Check the Mischeif Mixtape from 2008. And I think Frank's style is completely different from The Dream, don't see the influence there at all, but that's just me.
I've not said that he influenced Frank Ocean directly just two songs, show me a single song from any R&B singer sounding close to anything of The Pyramid and I can show you at least 5 The-Dream songs.

Just and example from a review.
John Calvert of the The Quietus called "Pyramids" a little "structurally ramshackle though never erratic, it's the type of massive album centrepiece that was inconceivable before The-Dream's stadium-R&B reinvented the genre as a mythological epic.


Regarding Miguel, all I'm saying is that Dream brought back creative R&B, made it relevant and creative R&B gave us Miguel.
Hence the "Creative R&B the shyt that the Weeknd brought back that gave us..". Or I might say "Thank Lupe Fiasco for bringing back Lyrical hiphop that shyt that gave us Drake", doesn't necessarily mean that Lupe sounds like Drake.
 
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