If Mike Dean did all the mixing, the additional production, and the one that actually played the live instrumentation. What exactly did BINK! done outside providing the sample? I'll wait. Props for providing the Smokey Robinson sample to begin with, but lets give the actual credit where it is due that gave that song life.
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If Mike Dean did all the mixing, the additional production, and the one that actually played the live instrumentation. What exactly did BINK! done outside providing the sample? I'll wait. Props for providing the Smokey Robinson sample to begin with, but lets give the actual credit where it is due that gave that song life.
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Although the guitar and added instrumentation did give the song MORE life....all of that was ultimately inspired by the sample. and if you listen to the original, bink flipped the FUKK out of that shyt. unless your saying mike dean chopped the sample as well....either way both deserve high praise. but I still believe that sample flip was the backbone of the beat.
Again, not to take away from Bink!, but are we really giving more credence for providing a sample over everything else that went into that production? And yes, read the credits again, Mike Dean was responsible in mixing that joint. All the actual work for that song was from HIM.
Bink! basically just mailed in a beat. Props for that, but those accolades for making this song for what it is in its FINAL PRODUCT belongs to Mike Dean.
I think you are confused breh. The beat all the way up to 2:40 is 100% B!nk. Mike Dean did all the live instrumentation after, which is really just replaying the melodies in the beat and riffing on top of it. That's why he only got an "additional production" credit rather than being listed as a main producer or even co-producer. In terms of creativity/IP Dean had the least influence on that song.
In Kanye albums it looks like the people with the most creative input get simply listed as producers. Then there's co-producers, then additional production.
For example Dean is listed as a primary producer on Gorgeous, co-produced on So Appalled but simply Additional Production on most of the other tracks.
For the tracks he's listed as additional producer it looks like it's for playing instruments or being in charge of live instrumentation ON TOP of an existing beat. If you listen to the original version of So Appalled it was only Kanye & No ID on the boards
Then you listen to the final version with Dean listed as a co-producer, it has many more sounds involved. But the beat is pretty much the same at the core, it's just fleshed out with instrumentation. As a add producer he would have even less input.
Jeff Bhasker and Mike Dean where Kanye's go-to for live instrumentation and co/additional production on that album. Jeff Bhasker has had considerable success as a pop main producer in recent years. If you compare the stuff he does with Ye, and the role they say he had, it works well to tell his influence when you compare it to his solo stuff.
The stuff where Bhasker is an add. producer sounds very little like his solo work except richness of instrumentation. When he's co-producer (All of the Lights, Runaway) the richness is also in the melody/heart of the songs which is the same for his solo stuff but the drums/percussion/bass is very different to his solo stuff.
I've said all of that to say this simple point: add. producers do not do the bulk of producing on Kanye albums. They mostly seemingly play instruments on top of additional beats. So give Bink his props nikka.
Again, you HONESTLY believe the song in its final product was this special due to a SAMPLE LOOP? I ask this question again, are we giving MORE credence to a use of a mailed-in sample over the people that actually put IN the real work? Mike Dean was the one that MIXED THIS and added his FLAVOR to this joint. The musical freshness of that song was more due to HIM than the sample Bink! mailed in.
There's no song without the beat. Mike Dean's part does not exist without the first part.
Put it this way... if Mike Dean didn't exist Kanye would've gotten someone else to additionally produce the song with live instrumentation for the second half, it would sound different sure but we would still have the song and a live instrumentation climax. Without Bink, the song wouldn't exist. That's why he gets producer credits and Dean gets add. producer credits.
Honestly, Jeff Bhasker is more talented than Dean. And I love Dean's input on Kanye's albums and his Scarface work.
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You don't know what the fukk you're talking about. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
Again, and not to take nothing away from Jeff Bhasker, but DID YOU READ the credits or are you just talking out your neck right now? For one, and I say again, nothing to take away from Bink! because he provided the sample which was the foundation of the track. It was a dope looped sample, but do not OVERHYPE a damn sample that ANYONE could of done. Also, Jeff Bhasker did not mix this joint, Jeff Bhasker did not play the guitar, the bass, and the piano, all the instrumentation that was PUT in that joint, and lastly, he wasn't credited for co-producing that joint. It was all MIKE DEAN. Do you even SEE Jeff Bhasker IN THE PRODUCTION CREDITS... so why you even bring HIS name up?
You tell me what Bink! did for this song outside mailing in a looped sample. I'll wait. I merely speaking facts. Counter them please. He only got produced by credit by name and was not there when the creation of this song was made. Look at the credits. Mike Dean was even credited for the RECORDING of this song. So who was the one responsible for real?
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"Mailing in" he says. If that's really what you believe, then you're a fukking clown. Big red shoes, rainbow wig, a red nose and all that
The sample makes the song. Everything Mike Dean added was based off that sample. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.
And it's a really dope sample flip, by the way
If that's mailing it in, I'd like to see what happens when he's really trying
