Dez Bryant for Percy Harvin straight up

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Stupid ass thread.

Dez>>>Harvin.

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You can line Percy up at any skill position on the field. Plus he can return kickoffs and punts very well.

If I was the Cowboys, I'd do this in a heart beat. If I was the Vikings I would never do this unless I got draft picks, also.
 

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You can line Percy up at any skill position on the field. Plus he can return kickoffs and punts very well.

If I was the Cowboys, I'd do this in a heart beat. If I was the Vikings I would never do this unless I got draft picks, also.

Dez is a elite wr. Dez is more explosive player, plus he also can return kickoffs and punts.

Nobody is doing this, except Vikings fans. Thats why nigguhs is hushed right now.

Harvin doesnt have elite wr ceiling. He's Desean Jackson lite.
 

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Dez is a elite wr. Dez is more explosive player, plus he also can return kickoffs and punts.

Nobody is doing this, except Vikings fans. Thats why nigguhs is hushed right now.

Harvin doesnt have elite wr ceiling. He's Desean Jackson lite.

Dez is an elite receiver? I think that still remains to be seen. He's made plays, especially these last few games, but I wouldn't call him elite.

Calvin Johnson is elite. Dez is nowhere near Calvin Johnson's level. Not saying he doesn't have a chance to get there, but he's not consistent game in and game out.

As far as Percy Harvin, I'm not a Viking fan, but I think they utilize his talents very well. My point is that you can line him up anywhere and he's a nightmare matchup. He's heads and shoulders above Desean Jackson as a football player. The potential number of things you can do with Percy Harvin is unthinkable.
 

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Dez is an elite receiver? I think that still remains to be seen. He's made plays, especially these last few games, but I wouldn't call him elite.

Calvin Johnson is elite. Dez is nowhere near Calvin Johnson's level. Not saying he doesn't have a chance to get there, but he's not consistent game in and game out.

As far as Percy Harvin, I'm not a Viking fan, but I think they utilize his talents very well. My point is that you can line him up anywhere and he's a nightmare matchup. He's heads and shoulders above Desean Jackson as a football player. The potential number of things you can do with Percy Harvin is unthinkable.

If Dez played in a pass happy offense like Detroit, he'd have the same production barring injury.


Dez is on Megatron's level. He just dont have the same ideal situation as Megatron. Its being shown this year.
 

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Desean Jackson is a one dimensional player. If he isnt going deep and outrunning shytty corners, he is usless. Percy is a tank of a receiver. Middle of the field, downfield, anywhere he can go and get the ball. Against any position the defense wants to match him up with. Slot, Outside, backfield. He is legit. Randall Cobb is a better comparison to Percy. I dont know which is more explosive, but so far Randall seems to be a hell of a lot more durable. I like these kinds of short, quick utility receivers though who can line up anywhere in any package. Both those guys route running is :ohlawd:
 

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Mothafukka, Detroit doesn't have a 2nd receiving option. So all the balls goes Calvin Johnson's way on a team that passes 75% of the time. You dont think Dez would put up big numbers in that situation where theres really no distribution of other receivers.

To put things in perspective for you, Megatron has 84 receptions but on 144 targeted throws his way.

Dez has 71 on only 100 targets basically.

Like i said, Dez would put up the same numbers in that offense
 

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Mothafukka, Detroit doesn't have a 2nd receiving option. So all the balls goes Calvin Johnson's way on a team that passes 75% of the time. You dont think Dez would put up big numbers in that situation where theres really no distribution of other receivers.

To put things in perspective for you, Megatron has 84 receptions but on 144 targeted throws his way.

Dez has 71 on only 100 targets basically.

Like i said, Dez would put up the same numbers in that offense

Dez's problem is he's inconstant, like I said. Calvin has been Consistent since he came into the league.

Calvin is a better route runner, has better hands, and is an overall better player than Dez Bryant. They're not on the same level. I'm not saying Dez doesn't have the potential to get to that level, but right now, it's not even close. Dez has had a good 5 game stretch here, but Calvin has been doing it all year.

To your point about being in a pass happy offense, you could say that about any receiver.
 

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Dez's problem is he's inconstant, like I said. Calvin has been Consistent since he came into the league.

No its not. You been listening to media for this piece of gossip. Dez problem is targets. When he gets the ball thrown his way, he makes things happen. Far often than not, he doesnt get the targets.


Calvin is a better route runner, has better hands, and is an overall better player than Dez Bryant. They're not on the same level.

To your point about being in a pass happy offense, you could say that about any receiver.

Detroit leads the leagues in dropped passes, and Calvins johnson is third iu the league in dropped passes. So miss me witht he better hands. Give Dez 170 targets and he have the similar output to Calvin Johnson. And Route running? I see Calvin run a lot of post route/fly routes. Dez run a higher variety of routes than Calvin.
 

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No its not. You been listening to media for this piece of gossip. Dez problem is targets. When he gets the ball thrown his way, he makes things happen. Far often than not, he doesnt get the targets.
You act like everybody in America doesn't get the Cowboy games. We've ALL seen Dez's inconsitant play. The fact that you're going to sit here and argue that he's consistant is beyond belief.
Dez's inconstant play has led to his diminish in targets, straight up. Witten is a more reliable target, so naturally that's who the qb is going to throw to in crunch time. He's going to the guy who he knows is going to make that catch.

Detroit leads the leagues in dropped passes, and Calvins johnson is third iu the league in dropped passes. So miss me witht he better hands. Give Dez 170 targets and he have the similar output to Calvin Johnson. And Route running? I see Calvin run a lot of post route/fly routes. Dez run a higher variety of routes than Calvin.

As far as the dropped passes, Calvin has 8 and Dez has 6. The difference is, we've all seen Calvin make the catches to win games and be the game changing receiver his whole career. Dez just started doing it these last 5 games.

You can ask 100 people who they would rather have as a WR on their team, and 100/100 would pick Calvin Johnson without even thinking about it. Calvin is just better in all aspects of the game.
 

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I never said Dez was better than Calvin, i'm jsut saying they're on the same level and Dez could put similar numbers if he was that offense with no second receiving option
 

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I never said Dez was better than Calvin, i'm jsut saying they're on the same level and Dez could put similar numbers if he was that offense with no second receiving option

No he couldn't. Dez can't beat double coverage. Calvin gets triple covered and still makes plays.

Dez ain't there yet...maybe one day, but to say he's on that level is asinine.
 

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by the time this year is over dez will have better stats that megatron in every category when comparing their first 3 years.

calvin johnson's first 3 years (45 games)

193 receptions, 3071 yds, 22 tds

dez bryant's first 3 years (39 games)

180 receptions, 2467 yds, 25 tds

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