Did alexander the great try to get Egyptians to worship him as a God?
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Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
THAT WAS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR IMPERIAL TYPES IN THOSE DAYS, BROTHER!
How about I tell you this guy never existed but was a mixture of more than one person
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Source? I'd like to read it. I definitely think it's plausible.
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interesting thread.. one thing that always stuck out to me was the hunger for revenge as far as the greeks went.. oral tradition teaches they were pushed out of the egyptian empire which stretched so wide that they had to head north.. the hyskos spent much of the bronze age attempting to fragment the structure of the empire.. looking at the creation of greece, from the founding of argos to the settling of the pelopennesian wars it was clear that the core group responsible for trying to ease everyone into a democracy (which sparta and thebes saw as corrupt and dangerous to their way of life) were doing so out of knowledge of egypts riches.. it is often argued that egyptian barbary was only inflicted on invaders who were often driven by forces into the sea.. however these indo europeans had to build a culture based on survival/rape murder and displacing..
So yeah if alexander was more than one man i wouldnt be surprised.. the only truth is that he was raised to be a conquerer of foreign lands.. and the creation of greece and unifcation of sparta athens macedon etc was a platform for him to return to the lands his forefarthers were driven out of.. it shows why he went through babylon as well..
Interestingly the stories of his life reveal quite a bit too.. his generals and commanders conspired against him as once he arrived at these places, he fell in love with the culture and spirit of the people.. the fact that he wept after all known lands were conquered.. was it because there were no more lands or had he realised what his life was manipulated to achieve? Either way that survival gene which is responsible for so many unspeakable acts is still being manipulated today as the first and last barbaric empire plunders settlements around the world
So yeah if alexander was more than one man i wouldnt be surprised.. the only truth is that he was raised to be a conquerer of foreign lands.. and the creation of greece and unifcation of sparta athens macedon etc was a platform for him to return to the lands his forefarthers were driven out of.. it shows why he went through babylon as well..
Interestingly the stories of his life reveal quite a bit too.. his generals and commanders conspired against him as once he arrived at these places, he fell in love with the culture and spirit of the people.. the fact that he wept after all known lands were conquered.. was it because there were no more lands or had he realised what his life was manipulated to achieve? Either way that survival gene which is responsible for so many unspeakable acts is still being manipulated today as the first and last barbaric empire plunders settlements around the world
Admittedly I haven't learned as much about Alexander as I should have. All I know is he was an admirer of Egyptian culture and that may have been through his tutor Aristotle. But like Hogan said, rulers want to be worshipped like deities in those days, plus if Alexander was lookin to be a Pharaoh that'd make him a god since that's how they were viewed in Egypt so I guess the answer to the OP is yes. It was a Greek trying to legitimize himself to an ancient people that viewed their rulers as gods on Earth.
A strong link to religion was a means to political power/security in those days, that's translated itself into different forms throughout the years. First it was being chosen by a god or you flat out were a god, then empires became defenders of the faith and used it as a means to maintain control, gain economic advantages, or begin conflicts with rivals, everyone needs to look legitimate and in these days being a god was a good way of doing it. Power of religion also shows itself when rulers go too far, Akhenaten is a great example of taking too much liberty with the religion that made you legit, Emperor Susenyos of Ethiopia is another good example as he switched the country from Orthodox to Catholicism during the Middle Ages which eventually had him driven out in favor of his son and Jesuits massacred or exiled and the old religion was restored. Alexander was smart to adopt the customs of Egypt rather than imposing Greek culture on them.
A strong link to religion was a means to political power/security in those days, that's translated itself into different forms throughout the years. First it was being chosen by a god or you flat out were a god, then empires became defenders of the faith and used it as a means to maintain control, gain economic advantages, or begin conflicts with rivals, everyone needs to look legitimate and in these days being a god was a good way of doing it. Power of religion also shows itself when rulers go too far, Akhenaten is a great example of taking too much liberty with the religion that made you legit, Emperor Susenyos of Ethiopia is another good example as he switched the country from Orthodox to Catholicism during the Middle Ages which eventually had him driven out in favor of his son and Jesuits massacred or exiled and the old religion was restored. Alexander was smart to adopt the customs of Egypt rather than imposing Greek culture on them.
I like all these post.... but im debating sorta a prominent bytch about this... and you nigggas are throwing curve balls
Now I have to figure out if dude even existed and if hes a myth of more than one person
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how could he have imposed the greek culture when it was an inverted form of the egyptian culture without the inclusion of the soul, the afterlife and immortality.. when you remove this you have a culture based on half of everything they found important.. why do you think that after the hyksos ruled the north of egypt in the 15th dynasty that so much art and architecture was defaced? We are living in a culture that celebrates and teaches 50% of the cultures before.. and we justify acts of barbarism like airstrikes on a random location as a result of it.. these people invaded.. were driven out.. rebuilt and invaded.. then destroyed the culture that reigned before.. its an inate need to pillage like the need to monopolise resources instead of looking for balance and its self destructive
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lol my bad . Ive actually never been asked or even contemplated this question.. what brought it on in the first place?
Well yeah of course to the bolded, but even then that wouldn't stop a more ignorant less appreciative conqueror from attempting to change things. But I guess that only underscores your point since it was clear Alexander had a deep understanding of the importance of Egyptian culture to his Greek heritage.
The rest of what you're talking about is just the dark side of human nature. We may be intelligent but we're still animals and are capable of vile things from then til now.
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true.. interesting that the dark side of human nature becomes more viable the further we get from a culture that is based on consciousness and the afterlife in the present life
Im not an atheist.. but im being forced to argue against a religious person about human nature and how religion is used to control and mentally brainwash people. The larger issue is about how certain cultures gained control and why maybe the ancient egy people may have preferred greek rule over Persian rule.
Just a bunch of crap. Im at a disadvantage cuz im militant, not afrocentric, crowd is.. afrocentric. There is a pause and this question popped in my head.
But now I have more questions than answers.
Well you need something to balance it. Spiritualism is one way but rationality and consciousness is another way albeit it not as old. People can be manipulated easily even using the most benevolent things. Most people in Israel prolly really believe some of the shyt hardcore zionists say since the whole issue there is behind a backdrop of religion. So spirituality just like science or anything else can be used as a means to bring out that dark side if the conditions are ripe for it.