Did Frimpong turning heel turn Yvette Carnell against Africans?

[get these nets]

So what ties binds us? The entire Crux of her agreement was that we have different experiences and struggles in relation to white supremacy and that melanin with afro-hair just ain't enough to say we are all one.

Out of her own mouth.....she confirms the cultural bonds that diasporan Africans have with the West African regions of our origin. She just lazily dismisses that with "y'all sold us" A person of her intelligence knows better, but is blaming ENTIRE regions of modern day Africans for the documented decisions of rulers and merchants of 16-19th century African kingdoms/nation states.
The same way she dismissed the mention of Right to Abode with an online video of Black Americans being called white in Ghana.

Some of what she says in the 2 hour video makes practical sense but enough with the bullshyt.

Her saying that non AA should show respect for and to Black American history and struggle when they set foot here is 100% correct. Acknowledging that the rights & freedoms that are protected for ALL citizens and residents did not occur because of white benevolence ,but because of a segment of AA agitating and fighting for them is 100% correct.
Person having problem with outsiders qualifiying for things specfically earmarked for AA is correct also.

The other stuff?Enough with the BULLshyt

 

[Robbie3000]

"Descendant of Slavery" The ideological stance that our identity is rooted purely in what massa wanted . We built this plantation and massa said we ain't African no more, our name is 'Toby'. So we can't go off reclaiming our own identity and relations in the world or we'll mess up the reparations we're clearly going to get in an era where white supremacy has returned to the mainstream

God damned she is bitter. She acts like African immigrants are rolling like Akeem. These people are coming from countries where people live off $2 a day.

This is just good old xenophobia. No different than hillbillies yelling 'build that wall'. As if building that wall is going to improve your lot in life.

shyt, there was very little African immigration in the 1950s and 1960s, how well did that work out for DoS?

Her enemy is not some African kid working minimum wage, going to school and sending money back home.

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

So, essentially you’ve give up on reparations, correct? Or, you want every black person in the states to get it if handed out? No shade, snark, or sarcasm on my end, I’m just trying to better understand the thoughts of a fellow AA.

Essentially, you want us all to be African or we should all identify as Africans? That’s cool, but don’t sh*t on us who are not cool with that and who want to celebrate what had been created here by our ancestors who were stolen and traded from Africa.

I don't have much hope for reparations, no. We'd damn near bankrupt the country with everything that's happened since. We're descendants of black codes, lynchings, hate crimes, voter discrimination, redlining, block busting, discriminatory loans, the war on drugs and mass incarceration, on and on and on. If we ever were able to get close to reparations, I think a lot of those things will come into the conversation, and rightfully so, but it's damn near a reset button on the fight. I understand the fight but it's largely out of our control. We can't decide there'll be reparations anymore than we could decide how they choose to oppress us.

What we DO have control over, now more than ever, is our identity and relations beyond the US. We don't have to be "nikkas" if we don't wanna be and we damn sure don't have to have our future anchored to what slavery meant for us. If we're free that is. Africa is becoming a force and it's not the reparations many want, but it's a reclamation-- socially, spiritually, and economically to our own lives and we don't have to fight for it or wait on it. We can be doing it right now and many people are.

My beef is with these so called 'DOS' folks who act like Africans are snatching up reparations we still haven't received. People like Yvette place more energy into taking exception with them than they do actually advancing the fight for reparations.

 

[Biscayne]

last 5 minutes of discussion with an AA caller

Don't see what she said in this vid that was all that denigrating. She listed some truths that may be a hard pill to swallow for certain groups, but nothing that was disrespectful. She always seems very respectful in her reasonings and her advocacy for AA identity.



I've seen a more hardcore and disrespectful stance from Africans and West Indians tbh.

 

[Robbie3000]

I hope this is just internet shyt and not anything that is mainstream. It's that black people should be at each other throats in the diaspora over the little crumbs that we are getting.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

"So, this is how it works. They sow the seeds of distrust and get us to fear each other." - Paul "Muad'Dib" Atreides

 

[J-Fire]

I hope this is just internet shyt and not anything that is mainstream. It's that black people should be at each other throats in the diaspora over the little crumbs that we are getting.

Lol. Immigrants (legal or illegal....obviously minus the UK since they money worth more, hence they not coming to the usa) can take $2000 USD out our pockets and start a business in their Homelands if all else fails.....what country can AADOS go to for a quick hustle an do the same in the USA?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Lol. Immigrants (legal or illegal....obviously minus the UK since they money worth more, hence they not coming to the usa) can take $2000 USD out our pockets and start a business in their Homelands if all else fails.....what country can AADOS go to for a quick hustle an do the same in the USA?

Who told you AADOS can only start businesses in America?

 

[T'krm]

So what ties binds us? The entire Crux of her agreement was that we have different experiences and struggles in relation to white supremacy and that melanin with afro-hair just ain't enough to say we are all one.

This is like Rocket science to some ppl.

 

[Robbie3000]

Lol. Immigrants (legal or illegal....obviously minus the UK since they money worth more, hence they not coming to the usa) can take $2000 USD out our pockets and start a business in their Homelands if all else fails.....what country can AADOS go to for a quick hustle an do the same in the USA?

Some of y’all are so naive it’s adorable.

Who’s moving from the US with $2000 to start a business in Africa?

You’d lead a better life working minimum wage here in the States.

Plus Kid from Kid n Play is wrong. The overwhelming majority of Africans Coming here are poor students or poor relatives of people already here.

And not poor by western standards. I’m talking about 3rd world poor. The type of poor that shocks the system when you see it in person.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

I don't have much hope for reparations, no. We'd damn near bankrupt the country with everything that's happened since. We're descendants of black codes, lynchings, hate crimes, voter discrimination, redlining, block busting, discriminatory loans, the war on drugs and mass incarceration, on and on and on. If we ever were able to get close to reparations, I think a lot of those things will come into the conversation, and rightfully so, but it's damn near a reset button on the fight. I understand the fight but it's largely out of our control. We can't decide there'll be reparations anymore than we could decide how they choose to oppress us.

What we DO have control over, now more than ever, is our identity and relations beyond the US. We don't have to be "nikkas" if we don't wanna be and we damn sure don't have to have our future anchored to what slavery meant for us. If we're free that is. Africa is becoming a force and it's not the reparations many want, but it's a reclamation-- socially, spiritually, and economically to our own lives and we don't have to fight for it or wait on it. We can be doing it right now and many people are.

My beef is with these so called 'DOS' folks who act like Africans are snatching up reparations we still haven't received. People like Yvette place more energy into taking exception with them than they do actually advancing the fight for reparations.

I, and many others will continue fighting for what is rightfully owed to us, as I have no problem going up to the ones who owe me and mines and letting them know they owe.

Also, the AADos movement, to me, is much more than a fight for reparations. It’s a celebration of my people making sweet somethings out of lemons. It’s the tradition and culture created here in America when oppressive forces, mainly here in America but in Africa as well, tried to bring them down. It’s the negro spirituals created, the strong sense of family, and many other traditions created. I refuse to assimilate and have that taken from me. I don’t even know which African country my people come from. All, I can tel you is we originated in West Africa. What I can tell you is where my ancestors started here in America, and the place I call home. Where my great great grandaddy amassed acres of land in NC, and divided it up amongst his children, and his children have passed it on. I was in a family meeting last year where my grandfather and grandmother divided up the land between their 5 kids, my dad being one of them, and my grandmother making them promise they’d never sell the land. My turn is next, and I ain’t running away from that legacy. My little sister died when I was a teenager living in MS. My pop said he was going to bring her home. He ain’t take her to Africa to be buried, he brought her to NC where she was buried. That is what being AAdos is to me. It instills pride in me that we’ve overcome so much. We’re descendants of much more than what you listed, but you’re free to feel how you feel.

 

[J-Fire]

Some of y’all are so naive it’s adorable.

Who’s moving from the US with $2000 to start a business in Africa?

You’d lead a better life working minimum wage here in the States.

Plus Kid from Kid n Play is wrong. The overwhelming majority of Africans Coming here are poor students or poor relatives of people already here.

And not poor by western standards. I’m talking about 3rd world poor. The type of poor that shocks the system when you see it in person.

When did I specifically say Africans?

Mexicans take a few thousand and go back to open business or send money back to pay off their houses.

But what coutry outside of the UK has currency worth more than USA? USA money going a long way for most Africans as well.

 

[NoirDynosaur]

What's the purpose of this beef?

I'm both Liberian and American

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

I, and many others will continue fighting for what is rightfully owed to us, as I have no problem going up to the ones who owe me and mines and letting them know they owe.

Also, the AADos movement, to me, is much more than a fight for reparations. It’s a celebration of my people making sweet somethings out of lemons. It’s the tradition and culture created here in America when oppressive forces, mainly here in America but in Africa as well, tried to bring them down. It’s the negro spirituals created, the strong sense of family, and many other traditions created. I refuse to assimilate and have that taken from me. I don’t even know which African country my people come from. All, I can tel you is we originated in West Africa. What I can tell you is where my ancestors started here in America, and the place I call home. Where my great great grandaddy amassed acres of land in NC, and divided it up amongst his children, and his children have passed it on. I was in a family meeting last year where my grandfather and grandmother divided up the land between their 5 kids, my dad being one of them, and my grandmother making them promise they’d never sell the land. My turn is next, and I ain’t running away from that legacy. My little sister died when I was a teenager living in MS. My pop said he was going to bring her home. He ain’t take her to Africa to be buried, he brought her to NC where she was buried. That is what being AAdos is to me. It instills pride in me that we’ve overcome so much. We’re descendants of much more than what you listed, but you’re free to feel how you feel.

We were handed lemons, AADoS are satisfied with making that into lemonade and being done with it. But I'm saying, and follow me here... Our ancestors didn't just harvest lemons, they planted the lemon tree. And white people used that tree to make lemon extract, lemon concentrate, lemon oil, citric acid, cleaning products, whole orchards, etc for centuries. They been selling that shyt across the world and made a fortune but all we can see is the lemon stands we built-- nah we built the rest of that shyt too!

So why not claim it? We may not have had the opportunity to take full advantage before but those same lemons DO come with seeds. We could be planting our own trees building our own orchards with the continent and one day the convo wouldn't be what our ancestors built for the US, but what they built for themselves in the global economy. If this makes sense, that is

 

[get these nets]

Don't see what she said in this vid that was all that denigrating. 1She listed some truths that may be a hard pill to swallow for certain groups, but nothing that was disrespectful. She always seems very respectful in her reasonings and her advocacy for AA identity.



2I've seen a more hardcore and disrespectful stance from Africans and West Indians tbh.

1I'd like to know what the hard to swallow truths were. She is free to identify as, and with, any group of people.

I deliberately posted this excerpt of the 2 hour video because the juelzing was high here as are the lengths she is going to distance herself from Africans.

I don't need to fully recap what you've heard, but the segment opens with an African American caller mentioning the Right To Abode program in Ghana.

Her response was "there was a great video of Black Americans being called white in Ghana"

Come on.That doesn't insult your intelligence?

She could have called it a hollow gesture and then spoken about the limitations the program.
NO.
She said "some Ghanaians called Black Americans white on video""They know that we have white blood"

In response to the question about common history of fighting white supremacy......she says "y'all let these white people into your country to sell slaves....(too bad)(and the countries that were colonized despite no history of involvement with transatlantic slave trade....fukk y'all too)
come on, man.

2.So have I, the discussion isn't about which groups or individuals have said the most harsh comments. It's about YC copping pleas about why she has no connection to Africans.