Did Hip Hop when sampling died? Did southern producers kill the genre?

[submarine1]

Post the original sample for Bad and Bougie.

I don't know the original bands name but I was there (in studio) for the sample replay and I work with G-koop pretty regularly.
If you look him up the whole sample replay stuff and his contributions to Bad and Bougie is pretty well documented.
Homie got several gold and platinum records starting with Nelly to G-unit to Drake and 2Chainz and Migos.
He produced "Its a Vibe" from 2Chainz - which is another sample replay.
The sample's are hella obscure though........this was learned the hard way after Dr.Dre had some "interpolation" issues with sample replays back in the day but to me the new style of sampling/replaying is hip-hop "crate digging"

 

[Zero]

Bingo. So many of those old producers and artists don't get much residual money because they had to give up all their publishing due to samples. Fabolous & Just Blaze had to give up 100% of "Breathe." Same with Peter Gunz & Lord Tariq "Uptown Baby."

It's like being in a group in 2018: doesnt make financial sense at all.

Alchemist and Schoolboy Q did it for "Break The Bank" ()

Can't blame em at all

 

[DANJ!]

fukk outta here.

You're trying to erase 20 years of music history to make your retarded point.

Southern producers used sampling and also elevated Hip Hop production by bringing in real musicians and composing original tracks.

Southern producers were REAL musicians, not some nikkas playing around with their parents record collection and drum machines.

You realize none of these are trap beats, right?

Or at least not what is now described as a trap beats... ain't one of these shyts under 20 years old.

I think the post you quoted is in reference to the beats that are being utilized today, none of which are these.

 

[Zero]

making a generic 90s boom bap beat takes about the same amount of talent and creativity as making a generic trap beat

Hard truth

 

[submarine1]

.......It's like being in a group in 2018: doesnt make financial sense at all.

plus the fact that now a lotta publishers/composers will str8 say NO to the sample clearance becuz whatever rapper/band aint "big enough"

 

[Majestyx]

these young brehs from the south still sample. dont blame them for hip hop being ass, blame nikkas letting hoes dictate what they listen to.... and nikkas not having any standards for the content and the bars...

anyway




OP and all his thread are ass cheeks

 

[ThaRealness]

Nah but I still maintain good hip hop needs samples

Hip hop is like a life hack. You listen to musicians who spent decades perfecting their instruments, and you say 'Imma make this shyt even harder'. But the best beats keep the listener hooked because the samples are so sonically (not musically) complex they can't quite process the array of sounds. Thats just my perspective. I aint really into sampling orchestras like I used to be, but if I just pull one chord from a sample its gonna have like a Hammond, a Rhodes, 5 vocalists and maybe a harp

Why the fukk would I ever try to compose? That shyt aint even interesting in comparison. I got the best VST ever made and I rarely use it. And this is coming from someone who grew up playing piano.

Brehs I aint even started on the fact that synthesizers can BARELY recreate the percussiveness of electric/acoustic instruments. the transient (that initial loudness; think if you banged a piano key as hard as possible) in a synthesizer is going to have a set value each time. Sure, you can modify that value with LFO, but theres no variance like with a real instrument.

fukk that bullshyt OP is right 100%

 

[mobbinfms]

Nah, he purposely skipped over the golden age of Southern rap production, in an attempt to shyt on the South as a whole and I'm not going to let it ride.

The South contributed greatly to Hip Hop music and culture as a whole, and it's stupid threads like this that makes folks outside of the tristate shyt on NY and East Coast based Hip Hop music.

Yeah. Southern hip hop through 96 was gawdly. Of course, 96 was the last by and large pure year across the board.

 

[mobbinfms]

Of course Neanderthal Ned rhythmless ass in here and but ain't got no cultural ties to none of this shyt.

Havoc one of my favorite producers but since we here doin this all his shyt is generic and sound the same too. East coast nikkas aint even program they own drums, nikkas made a livin off samplin a southern nikka James Brown's drums.

:PGucci:
Havoc changed his sound from the Infamous to Hell On Earth to Murda Muzik to Infamy. :Pgtfoh:

 

[TripleAgent]

Non sampling to produce cheesy generic beats in 5 mins created the disconnect between vintage Black art and basically trap etc..
Samples created a bridge between era's..
And yes, the South squatted and shat in the open mouth of hip hop. They have no concept or care for quality control, history of hip hop and their resultant influx into hip hop allowed any no talent faq with 2 dollars a platform. Hopefully hip hop is cyclical and the era of future, zaytoven and lil so n so will be dead soon. Tragic fukkin era

Tawk to deez nikkas