Did Jay-Z fell off or is he just working with the wrong people?

[JustCKing]

I'll will tell you that Magna Carta wasn't anything spectacular but he sounded a bit uninterested and just wanted to put out something for the fukk of it. But here is the thing, I think Jay-Z is just working people that influence him to put out meh material. We all know Timberland and Swizz are both over the hill and knows for club bangers.


Let's use Prodigy from Mobb Deep as a demonstration. I was the 1st to say that Prodigy was garbage for the rest of his life after hearing HNIC 3. I wasn't even looking forward to Albert Einstein all that much to be honest. After heard it I much say, I really think Prodigy improved his lyrical game and his subject matter in that Albert Einstein project BIG TIME because of him working wiith Alchemist thoughout the whole shyt. I think Alchemist instrumentals allowed P to go deep inside himself more than the selections of beats he was getting on HNIC 3. Let's be for real, there isn't ANYTHING remotely close to this on HNIC 3. just Prodigy mumbling about wanting gangsta bytches and other garbage
Prodigy & Alchemist - Confessions (Explicit) - YouTube

knowing the Kanye West is going a different direction with his style, would it be nice if Jay-Z can somehow get a hold of somesome like Harry Fraud? or some of Kendrick Lamar's producers, better yet get those guys he had on American Gangster? What happened to Just Blaze?

Jay-Z is already a legend so he can do whatever he want but if he gonna put out something... I expect it to be great. nah mean?

MCHG may be a lot of things, but if anything the production on this album should dispel two myths:

1) Timbaland fell off

2) Timbaland is just known for club bangers

In fact, the production is getting praise.

If Jay is working with producers who influence him to put out meh material, what's the excuse for Blueprint 3 (the majority of which was produced by Kanye West), Blueprint 2 (the majority of which was produced by Just Blaze), and Kingdom Come (the majority of which was produced by Dr. Dre and Just Blaze).

Changing producers =/= progression. Every Jay Z album has introduced a new producer to the game. In fact, there were several up and coming producers on Kingdom Come and it's still considered one of Jay's worst albums.

This whole thread just seemed like it was a plug to big up ALC. An Alchemist appreciation thread would've sufficed.

 

[ManBearPig]

MCHG may be a lot of things, but if anything the production on this album should dispel two myths:

1) Timbaland fell off

2) Timbaland is just known for club bangers

In fact, the production is getting praise.

If Jay is working with producers who influence him to put out meh material, what's the excuse for Blueprint 3 (the majority of which was produced by Kanye West), Blueprint 2 (the majority of which was produced by Just Blaze), and Kingdom Come (the majority of which was produced by Dr. Dre and Just Blaze).

Changing producers =/= progression. Every Jay Z album has introduced a new producer to the game. In fact, there were several up and coming producers on Kingdom Come and it's still considered one of Jay's worst albums.

This whole thread just seemed like it was a plug to big up ALC. An Alchemist appreciation thread would've sufficed.

Blueprint 3 was a double disc album. If u take all of the good songs and put it into 1 then then would have been a great album.

I didn't really like the beats on Kingdom Come for the most part.

 

[head shots101]

dude is scared to step out of the box

 

[Mike Ock]

Blueprint 3 was a double disc album. If u take all of the good songs and put it into 1 then then would have been a great album.

I didn't really like the beats on Kingdom Come for the most part.

is the other disc invisible?

 

[ManBearPig]

is the other disc invisible?

the album to be felt like Jay-Z was trying to fill out the entire album instead of him worrying about making quality music. I felt the same way with other albums like Street Disciple "that album was like 89 minutes long... could have EASILY been 1 disc"