Did Kendrick steal snoop&Dre buzz for their album

[Raquinotj]

no one says this about any other genres

though i dont think dre or timbo have made a good rap beat since The Documentary

Other genres are not like rap, the story telling, metaphors and lyrical capabilities don’t translate well when you’re mid 50s to 60s. There’s a reason why there hasn’t been many 50 year old + successful rappers

 

[mrvaughn]

If this album is a bust, at least we can finally put to bed Dre coming out with anything close to top tier production ever again.

A lot of us are guilty of huffing on hopium that he can still put out something top tier.

Sadly though, it‘s looking more and more likely that we’ll be putting Dre up on the shelf next to RZA and others.

 

[Stir Fry]

I was waiting for the Sprite can to show up in the end. shyt looks and sounds like a commercial.

Basically

 

[Raquinotj]

What should the age of retirement be for rappers?

45 is a good number. Other Jay Z when he hops on some Random DJ Khaled verse, people don’t really wanna hear what an old nikka gotta say.


Eminem has his core fanbase but his music today compared to his early days is cringeworthy.

 

[mson]

45 is a good number. Other Jay Z when he hops on some Random DJ Khaled verse, people don’t really wanna hear what an old nikka gotta say.


Eminem has his core fanbase but his music today compared to his early days is cringeworthy.

Don't you get more wisdom as you get older?

 

[O.Red]

Don't you get more wisdom as you get older?

This is a myth wisdom is individual based more often than not

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Other genres are not like rap, the story telling, metaphors and lyrical capabilities don’t translate well when you’re mid 50s to 60s. There’s a reason why there hasn’t been many 50 year old + successful rappers

Ya .... It starts with the genre being 50 years old

 

[O.Red]

Y'all making it about age like there aren't already active 50/60 yr olds in rap/music

MIke Dean has been on the boards of some of Kanye and Travis Scott's biggest hits. Charlie Wilson has been a piece of Tyler The Creators greatest songs. George Clinton,with minimal input, set a very distinct tone for To Pimp A Butterfly

Like I said earlier the problem with Dre is the nikka ain't been around now that is a common issue I see with hip hop producers. Nikkas get big, then become hermits or price themselves out the game

I'll never forget a NPR Mannie Fresh interview from 10 years ago. When asked why he hasn't been active his first answer was "Well to be honest nikkas can't afford me". That's the easiest way to fade into oblivion and ruin your relevancy. Timberland admitted that his head got too big and he had to lower his prices at one point. Nikkas get too cocky and start thinking they're above shyt. You don't get automatic respect for your past. It's great that you made a great thing 20 years ago, but that rarely keeps you afloat and relevant forever

Meanwhile Pharrell is 50+ and still relevant, still respected, and still sought after. Pharrell doesn't say "nikkas can't afford me" Pharrell seeks out younger talent he likes and works with them. Buzz ain't automatic, even if you're Dr Dre

Hell E-40 out here quietly doing numbers and that nikka pushing 60, but E-40 is active

 

[Stir Fry]

Richie Rich who Sn

Y'all making it about age like there aren't already active 50/60 yr olds in rap/music

MIke Dean has been on the boards of some of Kanye and Travis Scott's biggest hits. Charlie Wilson has been a piece of Tyler The Creators greatest songs. George Clinton,with minimal input, set a very distinct tone for To Pimp A Butterfly

Like I said earlier the problem with Dre is the nikka ain't been around now that is a common issue I see with hip hop producers. Nikkas get big, then become hermits or price themselves out the game

I'll never forget a NPR Mannie Fresh interview from 10 years ago. When asked why he hasn't been active his first answer was "Well to be honest nikkas can't afford me". That's the easiest way to fade into oblivion and ruin your relevancy. Nikkas heads get too big and start thinking they're above shyt. You don't get automatic respect for your past. It's great that you made a great thing 20 years ago, but that rarely keeps you afloat and relevant forever

Meanwhile Pharrell is 50+ and still relevant, still respected, and still sought after. Pharrell doesn't say "nikkas can't afford me" Pharrell weeks out younger talent he likes and works with them. Buzz ain't automatic, even if you're Dr Dre

Hell E-40 out here quietly doing numbers and that nikka pushing 60, but E-40 is active

Richie Rich is dropping a new project tomorrow too

That breath control is

 

[Not Crodie]

Y'all making it about age like there aren't already active 50/60 yr olds in rap/music

MIke Dean has been on the boards of some of Kanye and Travis Scott's biggest hits. Charlie Wilson has been a piece of Tyler The Creators greatest songs. George Clinton,with minimal input, set a very distinct tone for To Pimp A Butterfly

Like I said earlier the problem with Dre is the nikka ain't been around now that is a common issue I see with hip hop producers. Nikkas get big, then become hermits or price themselves out the game

I'll never forget a NPR Mannie Fresh interview from 10 years ago. When asked why he hasn't been active his first answer was "Well to be honest nikkas can't afford me". That's the easiest way to fade into oblivion and ruin your relevancy. Timberland admitted that his head got too big and he had to lower his prices at one point. Nikkas get too cocky and start thinking they're above shyt. You don't get automatic respect for your past. It's great that you made a great thing 20 years ago, but that rarely keeps you afloat and relevant forever

Meanwhile Pharrell is 50+ and still relevant, still respected, and still sought after. Pharrell doesn't say "nikkas can't afford me" Pharrell seeks out younger talent he likes and works with them. Buzz ain't automatic, even if you're Dr Dre

Hell E-40 out here quietly doing numbers and that nikka pushing 60, but E-40 is active

good point...but its quite clear Dre and Snoop are "too old" as in they're out of touch and clearly don't feel passionate anymore

I wouldn't compare that situation with a legend like George Clinton who clearly loves making music

 

[O.Red]

good point...but its quite clear Dre and Snoop are "too old" as in they're out of touch and clearly don't feel passionate anymore

I wouldn't compare that situation with a legend like George Clinton who clearly loves making music

Same thing

Too old to me just=Inactive. I don't think Snoop is out of touch but Dre definitely is

Ka, one of the most revered lyricists, just died recently and he had a sizeable fan base. He was 52. Mf Doom died in his 50s and he's one of the most streamed rappers currently

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Y'all making it about age like there aren't already active 50/60 yr olds in rap/music

MIke Dean has been on the boards of some of Kanye and Travis Scott's biggest hits. Charlie Wilson has been a piece of Tyler The Creators greatest songs. George Clinton,with minimal input, set a very distinct tone for To Pimp A Butterfly

Like I said earlier the problem with Dre is the nikka ain't been around now that is a common issue I see with hip hop producers. Nikkas get big, then become hermits or price themselves out the game

I'll never forget a NPR Mannie Fresh interview from 10 years ago. When asked why he hasn't been active his first answer was "Well to be honest nikkas can't afford me". That's the easiest way to fade into oblivion and ruin your relevancy. Timberland admitted that his head got too big and he had to lower his prices at one point. Nikkas get too cocky and start thinking they're above shyt. You don't get automatic respect for your past. It's great that you made a great thing 20 years ago, but that rarely keeps you afloat and relevant forever

Meanwhile Pharrell is 50+ and still relevant, still respected, and still sought after. Pharrell doesn't say "nikkas can't afford me" Pharrell seeks out younger talent he likes and works with them. Buzz ain't automatic, even if you're Dr Dre

Hell E-40 out here quietly doing numbers and that nikka pushing 60, but E-40 is active

It's crazy that fans on this board are always talking about a rapper is old while acting like Drake and J Cole are in their 20s

 

[O.Red]

Also ... All this "nobody wants to hear 50 year olds rap talk"



Dr. Dre's brand is typecast in the gangsta rap category

That is where his legacy resides



He doesn't want to have to keep going back to the gangsta rap well ... He's into music and musicianship

But the reason Suga Free is highly anticipated among his fanbase and Dr. Dre is alienating from his fan base is because pimping lends to the natural element of human seduction ... Gangsta rap lends to the energy of male adolescence, that's something you more quickly grow out of

But the industry never wanted to let pimp game be a focal point of their selling point, because it elevated the mind beyond that which feeds to the prison industrial complex



Dre spinning donuts in a Chrysler 300C product placement is like the Steve Buscemi "how do you do fellow kids" meme

 

[ADP]

Damn i find the Dre 40water comparison so disrespectful...

Dr.Dre is Top 1 (one) artist(s) in hip hop history he doesnt need to do shyt for the rest of his days

Album is gonna be weak as hell most likely but yall overdoing it like always...

 

[Reality Check]

the crazy thing is you know Dre has a bunch of heat from the death row that he'll never put out officially

Bomb1st leaked a lot of heat from the mid 90's death row before they just decided they would rather be Reggie Wright Headquarters. Probably was the last frontier to find unheard DR material and that's gone.

Dr. Dre's brand is typecast in the gangsta rap category

That is where his legacy resides

But guarantee that is not where his soul feels most comfortable he doesn't like that stuff he doesn't look highly upon it he wanted to get out of it in 1995 with "been there done that" ... But guess what, that was a failed product rollout

We saw that again when Jay Z dropped Kingdom Come and dubbed it as grown man ra
Same product premise, more successful rollout at the time


Dr. Dre naturally wants to make soul music. He literally probably has MJ like vibes toward fans of gangsta rap

He wants Marsha Ambrosia type music to be successful with his name attached

He doesn't want to have to keep going back to the gangsta rap well ... He's into music and musicianship

The bolded is truth. His track record with R&B isn't great in the long-term, and to me at least it feels like he's been chasing that ghost to validate himself since he can produce rap records with his eyes closed.