Did Obama do a good job as president ?

[OG Talk]

He did an excellent job. Made money for all of his lobbyists , delivered change to all of his non Black special interest groups and didn't rock the boat too much..

Pretty much everything the leader of the Western civilized world is supposed to do...

 

[CASHAPP]

Yes he did...




























For everyone except black people

 

[King Kreole]

Not really. Mediocre. Didn't understand how to wield the powers of the presidency properly. Also badly misunderstood the political climate. ACA good a nice step, but will probably be replaced within the next 2 administrations. Foreign policy record is a mixed bag, too soon to judge. Had no major fukkups, so I'm sure history won't remember him badly, but his biggest legacy will be in being the first black president. Symbolic. He will be defined by the times, not define them.

 

[Sauce Dab]

He left it in better shape than he found it
Kinda funny now that everyone who criticized him 8 years ago would vote for him again now that they see who could become president now

 

[No1]

i personally think all presidents suck , and I knew Obama wouldn't bring change , because let's be honest no matter who is in charge nothing will change , but anyways did you guys like Obama ?

Did he fufill his promises ?

He is one of the most consequentialist presidents ever just based on the strength of Obamacare. His administration steered us back from an economic crisis, and limited our participation in wars. He was the first President to openly support gay marriage. He defused many tensions with Latin America. Osama Bin Laden was killed on his watch. Stronger EPA regulations.

In the end, he also greenlit killing American citizens overseas with no due process, the NSA scandal, caved in to Republicans too many times. Had foreign policy missteps in Honduras and Libya that have cost many lives. Expanded the drone war.

As a guy in my 20s, he's the best president of my lifetime and brought a certain grace to the position. I just think the economy he inherited hurt him early and then Republican intransigence made things even worse. I think Republicans obstructing him may even help his legacy because without that, he would have disappointed supporters with his mre modest proposals. Instead, they are perceived as victories in the face of substantial roadblocks. This was not written well.

 

[Type Username Here]

C-

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

C-

What better presidents were there in your lifetime?

 

[MrSinnister]

Keep pretending Obama was the only president in history with a hostile Congress brehs.... This bullshyt right here is why Obama completely put me off of identity politics. If Obama was White, he'd be considered weaker and worse than Jimmy Carter. Because he's Blacks, I gotta constantly see how many Black bigots there are in the world.

Congress failed him because he let them. Case closed. There was nothing he really believed in, so he would just give up, besides the GOP ACA. He knew he'd likely not get shyt, and he proved he didn't want it. Other presidents have used the bully pulpit. Obama's only times using it was about terrorism.

He was janitor-in-chief for the premacy, and no amount of cop pleas is going to change that. He wouldn't even stand up to the police union killing his own "supposed" people. He threw his strongest Black connections under the bus for Glenn Beck ffs .

This Is pretty much a troll/Obama blow job thread, so I'll leave ya'll to continue, as I could go on all night with this weak shyt. My main point is Black people should treat each other, like we treat Obama, and then we can actually have the collective confidence and trust to get real shyt done. We actually do seem to have this submissive gene to people in power. I guess I don't because my dad was a loony alcoholic, but intelligent, that always shyt tested me and made me see inconsistencies in people early. Because I don't get this. If we'd treated Obama with the same scrutiny we treat each other.... , that dude would be on Mt. Rushmore.

The Tea Party has taken shyt over locally, because, asinine or not, they know what they believe in. If you don't fight hard enough for their insanity, they will primary your ass. We don't have that on the left, because so many of you are . You only care until it gets hard to do.

 

[Type Username Here]

What better presidents were there in your lifetime?

Does that matter in reference to the topic of judging Obama?

For example, Obama has done worse than Bush in a lot of areas that he gets a pass for. People tend to be less objective with President Obama, on both sides of the political spectrum.

He gets a major pass for the Drone War, Yemen bombings, and Libya. What happened in Libya was no different than the Iraq War with the exception that we didn't send in the military to do nation building. The result is the same. He gets a major pass on the left for that.

When Trump says "we should kill and target terrorists families" people are outraged but forget Obama personally authorized such actions already. Pass for that.

And I haven't even started touching on his economic policies. It is corporatism in every sense. It's a rehashing of Reaganomics under a new banner. A lot of minorities are still in dire straits, and certain groups have done worse. A lot of the working class is still reeling from the recession while corporations are posting record profits and the stock exchange is hitting record highs. But he gets a pass for it from the left, when we all know we are critical of the same results under Republican leadership.

His major domestic policy is a 1990s Republican idea that was thought up as a free market alternative to universal healthcare. Let that sink in. Insurance is still high and people still go bankrupt even with health insurance. No one wants to talk about that.

 

[hashmander]

and also with the exception that libya cost 1 billion and iraq was trillions, no american lives lost, etc. american didn't sour on the iraq war until the bill started rising and the bodies started coming home. people may act different now, but a vast majority of americans, including liberals who didn't go and protest, supported bush's wars.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

11th Best President of all time, if Dems get the White House after he leaves, he will be the first Democrat in the modern era to usher in 3 consecutive Democratic Terms, and he'll be Top 10.


The bar isn't especially high however. of the 43 men that have been president (Obama is #44 but Grover Cleveland is #22/#24 chronologically), 11 of them are 1 term Presidents, Obama ranks higher than them merely by keeping the job when they got kicked out at the first available opportunity. 12 of the remaining owned slaves, not sure how you feel about that, but at best they'd be great men that committed crimes against humanity and you gotta take out McKinley, Woodrow Wilson, Coolidge, Harding and Truman as all 5 were card carrying members of the KKK, a domestic terrorist group. That only leaves fukking 15 left, and I'll put Obama's record over Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan and George W. Bush.
11th, and he'll only go higher. What a time to be alive brehs.

When was Truman in the KKK??

 

[Type Username Here]

and also with the exception that libya cost 1 billion and iraq was trillions, no american lives lost, etc. american didn't sour on the iraq war until the bill started rising and the bodies started coming home. people may act different now, but a vast majority of americans, including liberals who didn't go and protest, supported bush's wars.

The strategy was the same: topple a dictator . the end result was the same. Libya is now a failed state and a hot bed for Islamic insurgency. Why give Obama and Clinton a pass for this?

I don't understand. It was a catastrophic failure.

Obama also pushed for direct intervention in Syria and was shut down by Congress. Remember his speech in the Rose Garden about chemical weapon use by Assad?

Continuous passes for this behavior.

 

[hashmander]

The strategy was the same: topple a dictator . the end result was the same. Libya is now a failed state and a hot bed for Islamic insurgency. Why give Obama and Clinton a pass for this?

I don't understand. It was a catastrophic failure.

Obama also pushed for direct intervention in Syria and was shut down by Congress. Remember his speech in the Rose Garden about chemical weapon use by Assad?

Continuous passes for this behavior.

one sentence your're talking about libya as this obama adventure and the next you're saying he wanted to go into syria but congress shut him down? why didn't they shut him down with libya then? because they couldn't and they also couldn't shut him down with syria. he CHOSE to go to congress because he wanted them to have skin in the game too. no more sniping from the sidelines about what you all would do better, vote and i'll release the dogs of war. that's why the neocons were pissed he didn't go it alone and went to congress instead because they knew that was his way of killing it after he started having doubts.

as for the pass on libya. american money and lives talk. you can't compare that and iraq on a simple well in one place they removed a dictator and the other they did as well. why was france so against the iraq war (remember freedom fries), but were leading the libya attack with britain with the backing of the arab league, they were the same right?

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

No I never got my reparations check or my Obama phone.

I got a Obama phone years ago. I was working minimum wage at the time and was at a grocery store in the hood and they had a Obama phone sign up machine right there so I said fukk it and filled out my information on it. 5mins later said I was approved for one. They sent that bytch to my apartment in like two weeks lol. I used that bytch for calls when I didn't want new bytches having my number to the android phone I had. I probably still have that bytch around here somewhere

 

[Type Username Here]

Jesus, these people are defending actions on Libya because it wasn't worse than Iraq. Not surprising.

There is an emotional attachment to this President for some of you and all arguments begin there. I've said it before, Obama will be the Centrist Democrats' Reagan. Demigod figure without actually caring what he did. The same way you scoff at the Reagan worshippers, I do the same to you.

If McCain or Trump did what Obama did in Libya you people wouldn't stop talking about it. That's just the plain and honest truth. Obama and Clinton get a pass.