Did the Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC collude with the Ukranians?

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It's no secret the current Ukrainian government would have wanted Hillary in office as she would have done more to arm the Ukranians than Obama was willing to do.

But Ukraine is corrupt and weak with so many divisions. It's not like Russia that has a much more unified structure of government and intelligence services who excel in electronic warfare and espionage.

Plus Ukraine is never getting into the EU/NATO. They need to hold their own nuts over there.
 

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Not based on what's public at the moment. Will more come out that will push it into criminal territory? Probably, but it would be based on the nature of the collusion, not the collusion itself.

“Anytime you are talking about coordinating or collusion, you are talking about the possibility of conspiracy charges,” said Samuel W. Buell, a former federal prosecutor who teaches criminal law at Duke University. “But conspiracy is not a crime that floats by itself in the air. There has to be an underlying federal offense that is being conspired to be committed.”
Donald Trump Jr. and Russia: What the Law Says

Although, your argument is a strong one. The caps-lock is what most convinced me.
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I dont know about Ukraine but she colluded with the russians making Putin the largest supplier of uranium.
1. Russia is already a nuclear state
2. Russia at the time was trying to "reset" the relationship Russian reset - Wikipedia
3. The entire US Government allowed the deal
4. The US and Russia collaborate on nuclear deals all the time. Most of our fissile material COMES from Russia. Megatons to Megawatts Program - Wikipedia
5. For example the US and Russia work on decontamination efforts in places like Kazakhstan A Secret Race for Abandoned Nuclear Material
6. And lastly, No. Hillary did not "GIVE" Russia Uranium. https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/no-hillary-clinton-did-not-give-russia-uranium-1792446097
 

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Not based on what's public at the moment. Will more come out that will push it into criminal territory? Probably, but it would be based on the nature of the collusion, not the collusion itself.

“Anytime you are talking about coordinating or collusion, you are talking about the possibility of conspiracy charges,” said Samuel W. Buell, a former federal prosecutor who teaches criminal law at Duke University. “But conspiracy is not a crime that floats by itself in the air. There has to be an underlying federal offense that is being conspired to be committed.”
Donald Trump Jr. and Russia: What the Law Says

Although, your argument is a strong one. The caps-lock is what most convinced me.
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What Is Collusion? Is It Even a Crime?


For example, if Donald Trump Jr. sought “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from the Russians, he might be charged with conspiring to violate the election laws of the United States, which prohibit foreign nationals from contributing any “thing of value” to an electoral campaign. The opposition dirt is at least plausibly a thing of value. And to the extent that the Trump campaign aided, abetted or advised the Russians (or any other hackers) about what would be most useful to steal from the Democrats or how best to enhance the impact of their release, they may well have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.


that donald jr meeting is very close to fitting the criteria. let them find out that they actually received some valuable info and it's over.
 
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