Did the Jigga man groom Beyonce into what she is

[Doobie Doo]

You think her star power didn’t rise when she was with Jay, from connects to work ethic etc

Just asking I’m not sure either way, this is just all discourse


This, that’s how it goes, especially back in the g

It did but she was already on the road to super stardom before Jay.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Groomed her to what, become bigger than him? Y'all nikkas weird man he probably seen her fine ass and was like YUP streets is done


Of course, being linked with Jay Z opens doors, but all that"grooming" talk idk sounds like GenZ babble to me

So as a man you don’t find yourself saying i can’t fukk with too many older chicks they set in their ways, i mean jigga could have any woman, you telling me it’s no way he saw a young star he figured he could mold into his wife

I mean we have so many examples, why is bey any different

 

[DropTopDoc]

It did but she was already on the road to super stardom before Jay.

She was famous but that star power shot through the roof afterwards

 

[BBG]

So as a man you don’t find yourself saying i can’t fukk with too many older chicks they set in their ways, i mean jigga could have any woman, you telling me it’s no way he saw a young star he figured he could mold into his wife

I mean we have so many examples, why is bey any different

I guess what I'm tryna say is what's the problem? If he started fukkin wit her before 18 fukk him, but if he got to her young but still of age and she picked up what he was putting down then that's part of the game my brother

 

[Doobie Doo]

She was famous but that star power shot through the roof afterwards

But her dad was a much bigger influence. Beyonce would be successful with or without Jay. I can't say the same for her without Matthew

 

[Ashley Banks]

Most high value women go straight from their dads to a husband.

Very rarely do they “go it alone” or be on some strong independent stuff. A lot of women who lack male leadership flounder in life.

But y’all gonna come in here with 50-11 examples of this not being true and blah blah blah so whatever.

y’all just be saying anything

 

[NegaDuck]

The internet has wilfully changed the definition of grooming, just like gaslighting, narcissist, woke, troll, based etc.

Smdh

Yup.

Everyone is weaponizing "therapist speak" now

 

[DropTopDoc]

The internet has wilfully changed the definition of grooming, just like gaslighting, narcissist, woke, troll, based etc.

Smdh

I understand that, what would you call a damn near 40 yo with a 19 yo

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

People need to let this go. I was in the other thread talking about how being around or above 30 fukking with a 19 year old is weirdo shyt, but she was legal so it is what it is. They are married now with a whole family. Why people keep talking about this. He wasn’t fukking with a minor regardless of if you find it creepy or not (and I’m someone who definitely does). People so bored and obsessed with this celebrity shyt

 

[Ashley Banks]

idk if it’s grooming since beyonce was already determined to be the person she is with or without Jay z. I think the age thing is what makes people call it grooming but that’s not always the case. Relationships where one person is grooming rarely last once the younger person finds themselves, think that old white guy & courtney stodden. Beyoncé has always been herself has changed her style to what she likes and always says she wanted to live her life before she got married that’s why she waited until she was like 28 to get married & 30+ to have kids.

 

[ORDER_66]

Was she 19 when they met???

 

[DropTopDoc]

y’all just be saying anything

They do, but think about how it used to be, women went from their dad, to their husband back in the g, it’s not like that now

 

[Kasgoinjail]

Her father, if anything he made her a lot more ratchet which is why she's still singing about the same things she was 18 years ago

 

[Finesse]

Of course he fukking groomed her.

If your 19yr old daughter walked into the house with a 30 yr old man you gon be keekeeing it up?

 

[DropTopDoc]

idk if it’s grooming since beyonce was already determined to be the person she is with or without Jay z. I think the age thing is what makes people call it grooming but that’s not always the case. Relationships where one person is grooming rarely last once the younger person finds themselves, think that old white guy & courtney stodden. Beyoncé has always been herself has changed her style to what she likes and always says she wanted to live her life before she got married that’s why she waited until she was like 28 to get married & 30+ to have kids.

I think her star power doubled with Jay, i won’t say grooming in a sick way, but nikkas with money will get a younger girl because she has less baggage and hang ups, and can get her on his program, she was her own person, but she was def figuring herself out as she was dating him