Did TI take the least damaging undeniable L from Luda?

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Although tip had crazy momentum at the time, luda still put dents in the armor that wouldn't be felt until years later. Remember ti was super thugging at the time and no one was checking him. Finessed flip out the game, was taking shots at an upcoming lil wayne, old atl, and engaged in covert beef with rick ross

Luda of all people called him out on some emcee and street shyt and tip did nathan. The damage points really took affect when a real street dude named shawty lo went at him.

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Back when 'Stomp' first dropped I heard it on the 'Welcome To Cashville' leak, everyone was saying Luda got T.I, but I always liked TI verse better, (and obviously much more as an artist), it was a dope song, but Luda was just a cartoon character, T.I verse was just street....'We can do it like the row but you ain't with that', 'you know who make the trap jump like the kings of crunk, this chopper hit ya bytch you wish you got your ass stomped'

But yeah, TI has taken a lot of credibility hits over the years, hardly any real damage from rappers, I think his plea deal, and inability to progress as an artist is what has somewhat impacted his career.
 

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T.I. lost in the streets to Flip and Shawty Lo, and lost on wax to Luda.
Lost in the streets to flip tho:francis:...LO yea , and Luda I agree, but flip lost on popularity in the street from jump.
 

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:ohhh:

I didn't realize how many people TIP was dissing at the time. What was that Ross beef even about?

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Ross was salty his label didn't pay for the Kanye beat and it was given to T.I. "Doin my job"

I do think the ross version was better tho
 

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Of course Luda got TI, he's an actual emcee who lyrically is a beast, especially on some braggadocious, ill rhymes shyt. That's not ti's lane...as much. Though ti isn't that atrocious.

Not T.I's lane:laff:?T.I "not that atrocious"


The colis ignorance or blind hate of the king gets worse by the day
 

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The 2 sides line hurt Tip in them streets. But his lackluster verse on Swagger Like Us hurt just as much on a pure music level. That was his chance to show he can hold his own the "elite" rappers and he failed. AND it was his song.

:what:

He had the best verse on that joint and he was at the height of his career
 

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T.I. got his ass whipped when he showed up in Flip's hood.
:mjlol:I forgot about that...but did flip do it:lolbron:....but still even with that, ALOT of nikkas still rode with TI...(but I do vaguely remember TI gettin into it with someone from cloverland...but the exacts escape me)
 

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The actual Stomp record itself was some bullshyt the way it was recorded, Luda heard Tip's verse and responded to him on the same song (even tho that version with both of them never was on the retail version of "Stomp"), Tip never had that luxury of hearing Luda's verse and then being able to respond back. If you listen to both verses, I'd say Tip had the better verse, Luda had the most memorable line

As for the streets, by the time Stomp hit the streets in the summer of 2004 Tip was a more popular artist in Atlanta than Luda was. It was Tip's city, OutKast was going in separate directions, Lil Jon was doing his thing but Tip was really owning shyt on radio, in the clubs, had the critically acclaimed albums, it was his time. Luda was still popular nationally and in ATL, but the scene was changing to "trap music" and that wasn't his lane. Luda wasn't a street dude

The Shawty Lo beef wasn't spearheaded by Luda at all. Shawty Lo and Tip were/are both from Bankhead, Tip was from Bankhead Courts, Lo was from Bowen Homes. They knew each other & their two projects were only about 5-10 mins from each other. I'll admit Lo got him with "Dunn Dunn" but Tip recorded "What's up, what's happening" and did the video in Bowen Homes. Only outta towers looked at Tip crazy about not being from Bankhead, locals and natives knew what was up
ti had the police with him when he filmed that video.
 

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That TI Shawty beef aint worth talking about. And alot of yall ain't from Atlanta anyway so idk why yall speculating. Lo pulled up to Crucial and hopped on the stage with TIP. Dem nikkas called that shyt a misunderstanding.
 

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I didn't even know Luda had that shyt in him. He fukking buried T.I. on stomp. Just annihilated that nikka, and up until that point TI was undefeated. He curb stomped Flip man, but Luda crushed that nikka even though Ludas career was on its back legs at the time. Crazy.

I heard they got on the phone afterwards and worked the shyt out though so :yeshrug:

I'm not against two men working some shyt out like adults.
 

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All I remember is everybody saying in unison: "... must be two siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiides" :krs:


that really was a tad more damaging than the luda verse. but neither did much. t.i. ruined himself ultimately.
 
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