Did Timbaland Ghost Produce Jodeci Diary of a Mad Band?

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I already said he did the drum programming. that's it tho.

apparently, timbaland himself is only claiming the drums, so what are you ranting about?





Devante losing his mind is the reason why he hasn't really been around since '96.

i know you love timbo & them but timbaland's catalog is too hit-or-miss.

quality over quantity.

Devante didn't lose his mind. Dude had music. He just simply wasn't able to make greater use of what he had.

Timbaland from '96-'01 is still >>>>> Devante's '91-'96.
 

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Devante didn't lose his mind. Dude had music. He just simply wasn't able to make greater use of what he had.

Timbaland from '96-'01 is still >>>>> Devante's '91-'96.


BE SMART SON. of course he didn't stop making music completely. but he was clearly burned out and prolly smoked out. I'm not even gonna argue about this with you. LOL.

timbaland over Devante??? hell no.
then again, aren't you the same cat that tried to say neptunes >>>> teddy riley??


You're wrong. "No More Pain" is definitely more so a Timbaland joint than a Devante joint even if Timbaland didn't necessarily touch the track. The signature drum pattern and overall feel of the song screams Timbaland. Nothing Devante ever produced before or after sounded like that song yet Timbaland had "nikka What, nikka Who", which is definitely a similar sound.


the overall feel sounds nothing like timbaland. it sounds like Devante.

the only thing that sounds like timbaland is the drums.

if timbo was capable of producing records like that, he would be sought after in hip-hop for more than just a radio single.


This is the 3rd single from that album:





It SOUNDS EXACTLY like a Timbaland-produced track from the late 90's.



this sounds nothing like a timbaland record.

theres no way in hell timbaland could make something like this.
 

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what i mean by that is he doesn't have the melodies in his acumen to pull it off.

nor does he have any sauce or spunk in his chit. timbaland beats are almost always goofy-sounding.

same with the myth of timbaland producing that 2pac song.

Devante was never a Hip Hop producer. Dude has like 10 Hip Hop credits to his name. Devante was never sought after for producing rap records. So him actually doing "No More Pain" by his lonely is more far fetched than Timbaland doing that beat. Why? Because Timbaland actually was sought after for Hip Hop production by prominent Hip Hop artists. The remixes that Devante had Timbaland doing were more Hip Hop than anything Devante was doing.
 

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Don't know much history but that doesn't sound like a Timbo beat.

Speaking of which, Missy had a song on one of her later albums that sounded like it was produced by Devante then I remembered their history. Gotta find that song.

That Stevie J story is still :stopitslime: and :mjlol: at the same time.
 

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Devante was never a Hip Hop producer. Dude has like 10 Hip Hop credits to his name. Devante was never sought after for producing rap records. So him actually doing "No More Pain" by his lonely is more far fetched than Timbaland doing that beat. Why? Because Timbaland actually was sought after for Hip Hop production by prominent Hip Hop artists. The remixes that Devante had Timbaland doing were more Hip Hop than anything Devante was doing.


nobody said Devante was a hip-hop producer and I already said 3 times that timbaland did the drums on "no more pain"

what the hell are you even arguing about here??

youre just in your feelings.:pachaha:
 

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He must have forgiven Devante or felt sorry for him now .

You can google the interviews from the people I mentioned in the last post that talk about how much of an a$$hole that Devante was to them. Ultimately it worked out for them because of their talent and having had free access to top notch production equipment for years. Slapping people, terrorizing people on some Suge shyt.

He never recovered from getting set up & robbed at that house they had in Jersey, he flipped after that.
Yeah he talks about it in the book.
"We would go for days without eating," he remembers. "We would be woken up in the middle of the night to run crazy errands. We were knocked around, kicked around, and beat down." In addition, Timbaland suggests that he was barely paid royalties for work he did on various songs during this time period.
Devante would send Tim and then out to pick up his 5 star meals, meanwhile Tim and then stealing top ramen and shyt. He sent Tim on a mission on a snowy night, Tim lost control of the car and crashed, the passenger died.
 

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BE SMART SON. of course he didn't stop making music completely. but he was clearly burned out and prolly smoked out. I'm not even gonna argue about this with you. LOL.

timbaland over Devante??? hell no.





the overall feel sounds nothing like timbaland. it sounds like Devante.

the only thing that sounds like timbaland is the drums.

if timbo was capable of producing records like that, he would be sought after in hip-hop for more than just a radio single.

Greats don't burn out in five years and there's plenty of great producers who were on drugs and still performed at a high level. You're making excuses.

How does it sound like Devante when nothing Devante did before or after "No More Pain" sounds like it. These have more in common with "No More Pain" than anything Devante ever did:



^^^ from that same year.

Nothing Devante ever created was as dark and moody as "No More Pain".

Timbaland was sought out for more than radio joints. Breh has classic album cuts on Jay albums. There's artists who have Timbaland productions on their albums that never were singles. And if Devante really did that beat by himself, why wasn't he sought after post All Eyez On Me?
 

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nobody said Devante was a hip-hop producer and I already said 3 times that timbaland did the drums on "no more pain"

what the hell are you even arguing about here??

youre just in your feelings.:pachaha:

You're saying "No More Pain" sounds like a Devante beat, but Devante never had beats that sounded like "No More Pain" until "No More Pain" and the sound never resurfaced from him because he wasn't a Hip Hop producer. That's why it's relevant. You're in here saying the beat for "No More Pain" wasn't in Tim's acumen when it clearly was more so in Tim's skill set than Devante's considering Timbaland has other beats with a similar style and feel.
 

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Another producer is credited but I swear this sounds like vintage 90s Timbo


This is a good write up on the whole Swing Mob (Bassment Crew) I read years ago
https://confessionsofacurlymind.com...rthed-77min-cassette-demo-tape-you-must-hear/

"however, the clique imploded sometime after The Show, The Afterparty, The Hotel (an album which had credited and uncredited contributions from various Bassment members, as did Diary Of A Mad Band, this group-mentality of creation being the status quo)."

Interesting, people say Timbaland made the beat to No More Pain for Tupac as well. He is even credited online but I don't think he always was.
The way I remember the story was Timbaland didn't make the beat, but Devante stole his double time style.

That's when Tim realized he had to get away from him fast.
 

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This is a good write up on the whole Swing Mob (Bassment Crew) I read years ago
https://confessionsofacurlymind.com...rthed-77min-cassette-demo-tape-you-must-hear/

"however, the clique imploded sometime after The Show, The Afterparty, The Hotel (an album which had credited and uncredited contributions from various Bassment members, as did Diary Of A Mad Band, this group-mentality of creation being the status quo)."


The way I remember the story was Timbaland didn't make the beat, but Devante stole his double time style.

That's when Tim realized he had to get away from him fast.

But didnt they get that Drum pattern from SMK?
 

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Also Devante's emphasis was always melodic while Timbalands was the drums

Like a Timbo version of this would have had crazier drums
 

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But didnt they get that Drum pattern from SMK?

Holy shyt that's also sounds like Timbaland. So Ginuwine in the first verse and Devante in the 2nd? That nikka can't sing at all wtf? That was the worst singing I've ever heard. I'm really starting to think y'all give Devante way too much credit.
 
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