Did we give the sauce away?

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Did We Give the Sauce Away?
Jasontothetull
Jan 25, 2026




Did Black people give all of our sauce away?

Did we lose the recipes?
The history.
The culture.
The cool.

I was on Threads the other day (don’t judge me, I like to argue online recreationally), and I saw a Black person say they’d never seen Malcolm X by Spike Lee.

That stopped me.

I’m 44. Growing up, that would have been almost impossible. Not seeing that movie was like not knowing who Michael Jordan was.

Back then, we engaged with our culture. We consumed it. You could depend on almost everyone having experienced the major tentpoles. The films. The books. The shared moments that shaped us.

We knew the basics of what came before us and the work coming out during our time.

I read the books the revolutionaries wrote.

The Autobiography of Malcolm X.
Eldridge Cleaver’s Soul on Ice.
George Jackson’s Soledad Brother.
Richard Wright’s Black Boy and Native Son. Alex Haley’s Roots.

And that was normal. Not “extra woke.” Not niche. Just part of growing up Black in the city.

Even hip hop media had depth.

The Source magazine in the 90s wasn’t just about album reviews. It was informative. It told you what was happening in other cities, other countries. Music, fashion, politics, movements.

Hip hop lyrics were filled with jewels.

You’d hear a bar and end up researching books, history, religion, world events.

It made you curious. It made you sharper.

The culture had substance.

Now?

So much of it feels like fast food.

Music people listen to for a week and forget. No depth. No impact. Nothing lasting.

Hip hop fashion used to be original.

In the 80s, 90s, early 2000s, it was counterculture. We created our own look. Our own brands. Our own stores. It looked nothing like anything else. Region to region, city to city, it had its own identity.

Now rappers have stylists who dress them head-to-toe in one of a handful of extremely expensive European designers.

No thought. No creativity.
No mix and match.

Just dressed like rich white people.

That’s it.

Hip hop used to influence everything.

How you talked. How you moved. Your politics. What you bought. Your hustle. How you played ball. Who you dated. How you lived.

It was a whole ecosystem unto itself.

Now it’s been absorbed so fully into the mainstream that it feels hollow.

And here’s the wild part.

A good chunk of today’s participants seem MAGA. A good chunk don’t even fukk with Black people like that.

The very culture built as resistance, as a voice, now coexists, comfortably, with people who oppose everything it stood for. Flavor Flav wore the clock so you could know the time.

So I keep asking myself:

Did we give the sauce away?

Did we let the culture be stripped of its history, its politics, its soul, until all that was left was an aesthetic? Vague criminality? Beats but no rhymes? Rappers who don’t rap? Button pusher DJs.

Did we trade substance for access? Depth for popularity? Ownership for validation?
And if we did…
Can it be taken back?
Or is this just what happens when something born from struggle becomes global entertainment?

“I’m tryin’ to give you a million dollars worth of game for $9.99.”

 

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Yes.

As a culture, we have been far to inclusive and far too forgiving, especially to white people.

Any black person who has ever said that stupid shyt about inviting them to the cookout are the main reasons why nothing has been upheld as sacred in the black community.
 

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Yes.

As a culture, we have been far to inclusive and far too forgiving, especially to white people.

Any black person who has ever said that stupid shyt about inviting them to the cookout are the main reasons why nothing has been upheld as sacred in the black community.

Well once Rick Rubin linked up with Russell Simmons and then Russell put Lyor Cohen in position, on top of Beastie Boys first album selling diamond, Hip Hop has been white inclusive on an extreme level ever since and that was the mid 80's. So it's fair to say that Hip Hop culture has been white inclusive since the mid 80's, meaning its been white inclusive longer then it hasn't been.
 

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Tradition, comraderie, culture it's all loose now.

I like blending, I like other people appreciating and participating... i've borrowed from white folk; I put mayo on my sandwiches lol

but what's getting on my last nerve more than anything is watching white racists steal the language. The amount of folk saying "sybau" and "be like" and a thousand other phrases and I'm seeing MAGA say it, and YOU KNOW they don't fukk with black folk, but steal from the whole culture while chastising us.
 

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on one hand, yes. doesn't seem we value history and (passing along) shared culture the way we did in the past, on the other hand, that's not unique to us.

secondly. we also are far enough along to see that the mid-80's - early 00's was peak black media - that is an era that will never be recreated and even if we did have the same outlets, we live in a world where it's easy to block out anything you don't actively choose to consume. that era of every black (american) home having some mix of Jet, Ebony, Essence, The Source, Vibe, Black Enterprise...is gone. Where we all came to school/work and discussed Friday, Moesha, Cosby Show, Martin, Def Comedy Jam, Fresh Prince...over. Where many of us knew something in the black arts - Tony Morrison, Maya Angelou, Terry McMillan, Alvin Ailey, Walter Mosley, Langston Hughes...dead.
 
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