"Diddy Called Me and Said He Wasn't Behind 2Pac's Murder" - Mopreme Shakur (UPDATE: "Diddy needs to be investigated for 2pac's murder")

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:comeon:Why Biggie saying my team in marine blue on Life After Death? If you think Puff wasn't involved with street shyt then I have a bridge to sell you.

So many people have come out and said Puff was involved and you choose not to believe it because of the innocent image Puffy created for himself?

If we're going to start quoting sh*t said by rappers, then we might as well say that they're ALL murderous killers then. LOL!!

"So many people" also said Pac was alive and living in Cuba, lol. But I prefer to believe what I've actually seen myself from sh*t offline. I don’t watch videos on YouTube and run with whatever is being said. I think Puff is a lot of things, but one thing anyone will tell you who's known him, is that he is far from "street" or involved with any sh*t closed to that.
 
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You expect critical thinking on here:heh:
If puffy called his enemies family member shorty after the shooting to deny involvement, i'll believe him too
 

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If we're going to start quoting sh*t said by rappers, then we might as well say that they're ALL murderous killers then. LOL!!

So many people also said Pac was alive and living in Cuba, lol. But I prefer to believe what I've actually seen myself from sh*t offline. I don’t watch videos on YouTube and run with whatever is being said. I think Puff is a lot of things, but one thing anyone will tell you who's known him, is that he is far from "street" or involved with any sh*t closed to that.
You wouldn't defend Puff if he wasn't from NY. So much has come out about this the last few years. That "Bad Boy was innocent!" shyt isn't going over anymore.
 

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And yet he did Long Kiss Goodnight :gucci: y'all live in an alternate reality.

RZA, Cease, Jadakiss, and mad other people all said that wasn't about Pac, at all.

But any fool can say this and that track is about whomever. But now BIG is making songs about people his man put out hits on too? Come on, lol. When "Who Shot Ya" dropped, they said that was about Pac and the studio situation. But it was recorded before Pac even got shot. Then it became, "Oh, because BIG knew the shooting was being planned."

It never ends with y'all soap opera n*ggas.
 

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His dad and all his dad's friends were long-gone by the time Puff was even 5 years old. He grew up far away from the streets.

He didn’t have to grow up with his dad or outside the suburbs to reap benefits from his connections.

Wolf was an employee. But Puff's rule was that he didn't want any "hood n*ggas" around him or his company. Which is why he banned all of BIG's friends from coming around like that. He didn't operate like Suge. So none of those people are affiliates, they're just people that media and storytellers connect with him. But he never had a history of running with anyone. He grew up in the suburbs and never spent time as a part of any street activity.

He has great PR, better than Suge for sure but how is he completely unaffiliated from people like Campos? Henchmen and the like? And again, growing up in the suburbs doesn’t negate street connections especially in an industry rife with street nikkas and mobsters behind the scenes. At a certain level of success the shyt just kinda comes with the territory.

Even a lame nikka like Drake got “mob ties”.

I agree that people could put out a hit on someone they're scared of, but Puff isn't the type of person who would be so scared of Pac that he'd want to off him. BIG loved Pac. That wasn't going to fly with him. I get people want to add more to the story and make it more dramatic, but that's not going to be a part of it. People are watching too many YouTube videos. Anyone that's ever been around dude would tell you he's always been too shook to get involved with real street action. He's a lot of things, but that's not one of them.

So you say Puff is a scary suburbanite too shook to get into street shyt. You make him sound exactly like the type of person to resort to putting money on someone’s head when pressed and chased around like some kind of mark.

And Biggie loved Pac too much to “let” that fly? Where was the love when he wrote long kiss and took a victory lap with it AFTER Pac was dead? That is nonsensical fam.

That would have been the most opportune time to show said love. Instead he mocked a dead man and gave shout outs to the team in marine blue, you know, the ‘employees’.
 

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People love drama and throwing big names in the mix. Because this is "entertainment" for them.

Puff ain't have sh*t to do with none of that. He's not gonna put a contract out on a dude because he got dissed on records. Last thing Puff is, is a street dude. He's not affiliated with anything other than music and shady record deals. So the chances of that even being close to happening, are damn near zero. But people want to sensationalize the same East/West narrative because that makes for a cooler story for the losers.

The truth of what really happened is too boring for people. They need to make up sh*t to make it more dramatic. Dudes need to stop sitting and discussing all this sh*t with AOD and Vlad. Whatever they're paying isn't worth what comes with it.
Bruh .. nah
I don't like how people trying to get puff locked up on some gossip shyt.

But puff is not soft. This nikka is always around some action. And isn't scared of shyt.

He punches nikkaz, smacks nikkaz, busses nikkaz in their head with bottles.
And I'm sure he is cool with getting nikkaz murdered too.

This whole notion that puff is p*ssy is something that he's cool with cause it keeps the cops off him.

But he definitely isn't one to fukk with
 

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He didn’t have to grow up with his dad or outside the suburbs to reap benefits from his connections.

He has great PR, better than Suge for sure but how is he completely unaffiliated from people like Campos? Henchmen and the like? And again, growing up in the suburbs doesn’t negate street connections especially in an industry rife with street nikkas and mobsters behind the scenes. At a certain level of success the shyt just kinda comes with the territory.
Even a lame nikka like Drake got “mob ties”.

So you say Puff is a scary suburbanite too shook to get into street shyt. You make him sound exactly like the type of person to resort to putting money on someone’s head when pressed and chased around like some kind of mark.

And Biggie loved Pac too much to “let” that fly? Where was the love when he wrote long kiss and took a victory lap with it AFTER Pac was dead? That is nonsensical fam.

That would have been the most opportune time to show said love. Instead he mocked a dead man and gave shout outs to the team in marine blue, you know, the ‘employees’.

With all due respect to Drake, his "ties" are street people extorting him, lol. Some guys who have actual street ties, who saw a cash cow and got him on paper and offered protection for all the money they've been pulling out of him forever. That's different from Puff's thing.

There were no "benefits" from Mel's people. That whole era of Harlem is dead. Growing up we all knew people who either worked for, or with those older dudes. That whole generation has been replaced mad times over. Puff is far from getting anything from that today. Puff intentionally kept himself away from street sh*t because he wanted to pursue business. Everyone that grew up with him says the same. He would run from conflicts because he knew what happened to his father. Mad years later, I saw the same with him. He doesn't even want that element around him. So he's definitely not wiring no damn million dollars to dudes to off the most high-profile rapper of all-time. Only an idiot would believe that. Pac was killed by a dude who had already been murking people, and who just got stomped out by Pac and company right before.

BIG was devastated when Pac died. They had their little issues, but they were friends. He didn't want to see dude die, just like Pac wouldn't have wanted to see BIG die. People forget, they were still kids back then. So yeah, they're going to hop on records and talk sh*t. But neither one of them wanted the other to see harm. That's not who they were. And people have to stop saying BIG was talking about Pac getting clapped on records. That's not what he was doing at all. People always want to cite lyrics when its convenient to fit a narrative. But when dudes start seeing these rhymes bright up in the court, those same dudes cry about how that's f*cked up and it's "just music". BIG ain't gonna spell out a damn hit on someone on a record.

People have to stop sensationalizing this sh*t. These are two people who are gone. The gossip and lying is wild disrespectful to them.
 

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Bruh .. nah
I don't like how people trying to get puff locked up on some gossip shyt.

But puff is not soft. This nikka is always around some action. And isn't scared of shyt.

He punches nikkaz, smacks nikkaz, busses nikkaz in their head with bottles.
And I'm sure he is cool with getting nikkaz murdered too.

This whole notion that puff is p*ssy is something that he's cool with cause it keeps the cops off him.

But he definitely isn't one to fukk with

Nah, you're right.

When he's had issues, he'd run up on certain kinds of people, himself. Usually soft dudes.

Never any certified dudes. He'll run up on Drake and dudes like Steve Stoute. But there's been mad street dudes that hemmed him up, and Puff didn't do a thing. So he knows who to f*ck with, and who not to. He's smart in that way.

You can still be p*ssy and pay someone to clap someone else. Point is, this dude didn't have issues with Pac to want him dead. That's some sh*t the media and the people gossiping would prefer because it makes a "great" story. But the truth is, Pac f*cked around and stomped out an actual killer, who knew where he would be, and shot him later on the same night. Yeah, Orlando coming right back and spraying sh*t up might not be as interesting to talk about as much as Puff ordering hits, but that's what it is.
 

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You really said "family history" like that makes him something today?

His father died when he was three. He doesn't even remember him. And his mom moved him away from the city because of the lifestyle his father was leading. Y'all think that makes Puff hood?

That's being naive.
You don’t have to be hood to put a hit on a nikka trying to get your mothers address, tryna run up on you at a award show, tryna end your livelihood, and threatening you on record. I’m not even saying he did or didn’t. But you sound real naive right now
 

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You don’t have to be hood to put a hit on a nikka trying to get your mothers address, tryna run up on you at a award show, tryna end your livelihood, and threatening you on record. I’m not even saying he did or didn’t. But you sound real naive right now

"Hood" in meaning he doesn't give a f*ck about repercussions and is about that life.

That ain't Puff. He wouldn't even retaliate on dudes in NY that did sh*t to him, but he's going to start putting out hits on rappers? Nah.

I'm speaking facts based on how I've seen him do sh*t. I don't do a lot of speculating. If he was on that kinda sh*t, there would be a lot of dudes right in NYC not walking around anymore. Anyone from the city would tell you how Puff was getting herbed over the years, badly. All of those dudes are still alive. So nah, the only naive people are the ones that suddenly think Puff is Vito Corleone or some sh*t, lol.
 

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Nah, you're right.

When he's had issues, he'd run up on certain kinds of people, himself. Usually soft dudes.

Never any certified dudes. He'll run up on Drake and dudes like Steve Stoute. But there's been mad street dudes that hemmed him up, and Puff didn't do a thing. So he knows who to f*ck with, and who not to. He's smart in that way.

You can still be p*ssy and pay someone to clap someone else. Point is, this dude didn't have issues with Pac to want him dead. That's some sh*t the media and the people gossiping would prefer because it makes a "great" story. But the truth is, Pac f*cked around and stomped out an actual killer, who knew where he would be, and shot him later on the same night. Yeah, Orlando coming right back and spraying sh*t up might not be as interesting to talk about as much as Puff ordering hits, but that's what it is.
Who has hemmed up puff bruh?

My nikka everybody seems to have a story about puff either confronting them or checking them.

I just randomly heard a puff story by tommy Davidson on Shannon Sharpe show.
How puff used to be his assistant and puff had an issue with security and he punched the security nikka. Had him leaking.

On the low puff is a hot head and crazy. And he was always connected

Edit... I see you going hard. Who is thorough to you bro. Who's a hood nikka to you?
 

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Who has hemmed up puff bruh?

My nikka everybody seems to have a story about puff either confronting them or checking them.

I just randomly heard a puff story by tommy Davidson on Shannon Sharpe show.
How puff used to be his assistant and puff had an issue with security and he punched the security nikka. Had him leaking.

On the low puff is a hot head and crazy. And he was always connected

Edit... I see you going hard. Who is thorough to you bro. Who's a hood nikka to you?

The list is mad long.

His old assistant Phil slapped the sh*t out of him at a party over some money, and all Puff did was fire him. Dude came out to the media talking about how he's going to talk about all this "gay business" Puff was a part of, and I've seen that dude walking around Harlem mad times over the past 2-3 years. Nothing happened. G-Wiz, Christopher Williams, Al B Sure, the OG Black Tone that used to run with Teddy Riley's people Posse Deep, on and on. If you're from the city, you knew about all the people who either snuffed Puff or did some other wild sh*t to him, and they're all still walking around.

Puff used to say the phones at the Bad Boy office could be tapped, so he didn't even want the "wrong people" calling there. And if you got locked up, you couldn't call from any correctional facilities. His whole thing was always how he didn't want no street sh*t around to f*ck up the money. He didn't want to affiliate with street sh*t, and if you were signed there, working there or working on any projects there, you had to leave your hood sh*t behind. So now here we are, and people believe that this dude is going to leave a paper trail of money to shooters, so he can have Pac offed?

This is when people have to start thinking, if that's possible for them, lol. Hip Hop "fans" gotta be the most gullible and dumb of any genre. It's wild.

To answer your question, "thorough" is subjective. Being involved in street sh*t doesn't make you "thorough" though. "Hood" is a mentality. What it really means is that you don’t care about sh*t. Yourself, others, or the repercussions of your actions. I grew up with a lot of dudes like that. They're all either dead or locked up. So none of that sh*t is acceptable. It's ignorant. And if you're operating on that level, you're going to lose at some point. People like me who actually grew up around that, don’t sensationalize it. It's not entertainment for us. So we know who's about it, and who isn't. That ain't Puff.
 
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