Diddy Drops Knowledge @ Revolt Conference in Miami

[L. Deezy]

So he is a top businessmen/artist who has never hit Forbes radar is that right ?* :gotdamnbreh:

and n!ggas shouldn't talk about his businesses but he's still top 4 according to you right ? :gotdamnbreh:


That Contradiction....That Delusion....That Deflection :gotdamnbreh:






*That's not to say he never will IMHO anything is possible

Forbes makes their lists up.. Dude from Forbes just stated that. He dont know jack shyt unless a artist tells them. So the artist is either gonna wanna attention whore for props to be on that list or show the IRS what they making for real..

 

[L. Deezy]

cornball ass Luda was pressed to be on that list.. then gets taken for child support, all of a sudden he dont make shyt.. LMAOO

yeah, be an attention whoring rapper brehs

 

[Cynic]

Forbes makes their lists up.. Dude from Forbes just stated that. He dont know jack shyt unless a artist tells them. So the artist is either gonna wanna attention whore for props to be on that list or show the IRS what they making for real..

They don't just pull those lists out of thin air....those are close estimates NOT "made up"

You going to tell me they made up Dres earnings and 50s Vitamin Water deal ?

Funny, how nyggas think rappers GOTTA have businesses..lol

No one shytted on Bruce Springsteen for just making music. Nobody has asked Garth Brooks where his clothing line at?

Still waiting on Beats by Smokey Robinson.. Smokey is such a failure for not doing shyt outside music.. what a corny ass millionaire he is..

Meanwhile, the coli critics striving to one day make 100,000 on a 9 to 5 and no businesses.. lol

You said this....but then went on to say Nas is Top 4 businessman.

You bodied yourself.

 

[L. Deezy]

They don't just pull those lists out of thin air....those are close estimates NOT "made up"

You going to tell me they made up Dres earnings and 50s Vitamin Water deal ?





You said this....but then went on to say Nas is Top 4 businessman.

You bodied yourself.

nygga I said that for the topic of this thread.. stop over analyzing

Forbes knows public knowledge stuff..

if them nyggas come to me and say hey, we got you at 20mill this year based on the amount of shows nshyt you did. Is that true? I can either say yes or no or get the fukk outta here nosey faq.. simple as that.

 

[prophecypro]

So you are saying he lacked drive all these years :pharrell:

Nas doesn't strike me as a hustler with a strong work ethic or uncompromising ambition.... Jay Diddy and Fifty are ruthless and committed to the pursuit of wealth

Nas has always been a true artist who focused on his craft....his music has always taken precedent over wealth.

Everyone fails man. It's better to fail fast and learn from it than "being realistic" .... it screams of being timid and safe ....not seizing opportunity....we live in a tech age....worse yet hiphop is a young genre

I'm glad he doesnt strike you as that because being hustler, that's not what developing a brand and being a true businessmean is about, that's some Jim Jones promote Sizzurp today cause its gone tomorrow shyt and some generic ass early 2000s term we brought into to simplify how to develop yourself.
I'd say the fact he was constantly touring the past 7 years (pre-Kelis divorce as well) in relation to projects or companies he's associated with shows he has a drive to at least merge his artistic side with the business side (Rock the Bells with Guriella Entertainment whom he had shares in, Touring untitled with Fila as the sponsor, The Hennessey sponsored Time is Illmatic tours.

I dont think Hip Hop is necessarily a young genre anymore either when most of the big power names are well into their 30's and 40s and the new guys are late 20s. There's no sure timeclock to trial and error but I would say he's managed to stay known and relevant through good business deals. He wouldnt be around if he failed that badly as a businessman, the artistry alone can only do so much.

 

[Bickin Back Being Bool]

Dr Combs

 

[Cynic]

nygga I said that for the topic of this thread.. stop over analyzing

Forbes knows public knowledge stuff..

if them nyggas come to me and say hey, we got you at 20mill this year based on the amount of shows nshyt you did. Is that true? I can either say yes or no or get the fukk outta here nosey faq.. simple as that.

Public knowledge and public domain are different.

Artists can lie...but would their accountants/attorneys lie to that extent? Overstating your income would also attract the IRS attention.

It might not be accurate but it's the closest you can get

Get mad after you contradict yourself brehs

Resort to angst and insults brehs

Anywho back to Diddys insightful advice :deseanha: He spoke truth

 

[Cynic]

I'm glad he doesnt strike you as that because being hustler, that's not what developing a brand and being a true businessmean is about, that's some Jim Jones promote Sizzurp today cause its gone tomorrow shyt and some generic ass early 2000s term we brought into to simplify how to develop yourself.
I'd say the fact he was constantly touring the past 7 years (pre-Kelis divorce as well) in relation to projects or companies he's associated with shows he has a drive to at least merge his artistic side with the business side (Rock the Bells with Guriella Entertainment whom he had shares in, Touring untitled with Fila as the sponsor, The Hennessey sponsored Time is Illmatic tours.

I dont think Hip Hop is necessarily a young genre anymore either when most of the big power names are well into their 30's and 40s and the new guys are late 20s. There's no sure timeclock to trial and error but I would say he's managed to stay known and relevant through good business deals. He wouldnt be around if he failed that badly as a businessman, the artistry alone can only do so much.

I'm using hustler as vernacular...you can't seriously belittle that term when Jay and Fifty have built brands and are successful businessmen.

I'm not knocking what he does here btw.....just in comparison to his counterparts he just doesn't stack up success wise. which is okay too....acquiring wealth at the expense of his art/fans might not be his focus. The opportunity has been there for 20 odd years though

So if he's not as wealthy as Jay/Fif/Diddy/Dre then that's more down to his ambitions. They just don't seem to lie in stacking as much money as possible.

He has stayed known and relevant through talent not business acumen. This has already been evidenced by his absence from Forbes and that hefty IRS tax lien.

Anyway back to Diddys insightful advice :deseanha:

 

[prophecypro]

I'm using hustler as vernacular...you can't seriously belittle that term when Jay and Fifty have built brands and are successful businessmen.

I'm not knocking what he does here btw.....just in comparison to his counterparts he just doesn't stack up success wise. which is okay too....acquiring wealth at the expense of his art/fans might not be his focus. The opportunity has been there for 20 odd years though

So if he's not as wealthy as Jay/Fif/Diddy/Dre then that's more down to his ambitions. They just don't seem to lie in stacking as much money as possible.

He has stayed known and relevant through talent not business acumen. This has already been evidenced by his absence from Forbes and that hefty IRS tax lien.

Anyway back to Diddys insightful advice :deseanha:

What's their to belittle? lol Its such a overinflated term to simplfy how branding works.

Keep in mind, him getting a tax lien is no different than the fact many celebs in the past 5 years are getting tax liens and thats down to just the IRS finding and backchecking on things that artist consider tax write offs previously (hence why the IRS has been in the news and under fire the past 2 years).. Either way, it appears to have been 3 years since any reported problems.

With Forbes, that list is built on what the rappers themselves submit as their networth so you can be rich make a ton of dough and not appear. I would mention though in both 2013 and 2014 Forbes said Nas was just outside their top 15 both years. Either way, it silly to say he has no business acumen when the last 2 years say differently. But again, the fact he branded himself as an artist is why you dont think of him as businessmen either, but thats still a business move

Like I said being known comes down to business acumen and talent as well. This is not G Rap floating in and out, the fact Emagen has marketed him well this late in his career means he knows about business.

 

[Roovers410]

yeah suge was def right!!! .... take that

 

[director_of_bands]

Some of you need to read some damn books...he is saying some basic shyt that you should already know.

the op saved me from wasting my time by highlighting the main points....nothing but cliches used in most business related motivational speeches

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I'm convinced someone in this thread works for nas,has an excuse for every mistake nasir makes

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

I'm convinced someone in this thread works for nas,has an excuse for every mistake nasir makes

Im convinced every lover of hip hop loves Nas music
Otherwise they prefer hip pop!

 

[NvrCMyNut]

these nikkas not listening

@ Zuckerbergs wife. He should be swimming in PAWGS

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

@ Zuckerbergs wife. He should be swimming in PAWGS

Then u got nobody to trust