DJ Drama Says 2 Chainz Fell Off, Talks Responses To Kendrick Lamar's Control Verse & Clowns Papoose

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When are yall gonna learn that "singles" and "hits" don't sell records anymore? Establishing a core mainstream fan base does...French, Future and Ace Hood all had singles that "connected" and got stomped by J. Cole, Nas and T.I.

Robin Thicke had a smash single that was bigger than anything on Timblerlakes album and still got outsold by quadruple the amount..

2 Chainz is gonna be okay....
rather extreme cases that can easily be shot down by wale going way backwards. robin thicke's album did pretty well. 2 chainz has one ok album piggybacking off an incredible roll of singles and features. his team has good reason to be worried. he got his shot late in the game and he gotta really fight to stay in the rotation. last artist to pull this off, albeit only for an album or two is twista. we'll see, but dude aint no lyricist. he needs singles for that album look.
 

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I don't get it though... "Fedz Watching" is a very tough song to me but people just aren't feeling his sh1t this time around. I was at a hookah lounge and when that sh1t came on, I noticed I was the only nicca in there vibing to that sh1t but Versace came on and people went crazy.

He's needs to get Drizzy and Mike Will on the phone and push that album back asap.
The novelty of 2 Chainz is gone.
 

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The nikka who dissed the Lupe track ENTIRELY missed the point of the shyt..lol..shyt flew all the way over his head...and he said u supposed to rap over the same beat...NO...the biggest mistake these nikkas is making is rapping over the same beat...it's literally the biggest mistake....imma put it like this...the best response over that beat was Joell and Joe Budden...the best response creative wise...was Lupe...and the best response over another beat and damn near in general to me...was Uncle Murda...
 

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Another thing that people don't get about the verse (besides that sh!t not being a "diss")...not being mentioned wasn't an "insult" ...he didn't rattle off a list of names on some "these are the only rappers in the universe that matter, and everybody else is a non factor and should be ashamed"...the names he listed were just cats he's cool with in the industry and has done songs with, basically saying "I want all my homies to know even though we're cool I want to have the best verse on tracks we do together" (which is about as big of a "diss" as Lebron telling Melo or Chris Paul he wants to win when they play each other)...Mac Miller being named instead of 2Chainz don't mean sh!t other than he's cooler with Mac than he is with titi...sh!t's wasn't some kind of implied slight at 2chainz' standing in the game

And to that point, Feds Watching is currently #7 on urban radio and still trending upwards, gaining spins...

http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/radiofacts/Charts.asp?format=U1R
 
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When are yall gonna learn that "singles" and "hits" don't sell records anymore? Establishing a core mainstream fan base does...French, Future and Ace Hood all had singles that "connected" and got stomped by J. Cole, Nas and T.I.

Robin Thicke had a smash single that was bigger than anything on Timblerlakes album and still got outsold by quadruple the amount..

2 Chainz is gonna be okay....

 

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Fell off? That nikka never been "on" in my opinion. Wack ass rapper.
 

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Another thing that people don't get about the verse (besides that sh!t not being a "diss")...not being mentioned wasn't an "insult" ...he didn't rattle off a list of names on some "these are the only rappers in the universe that matter, and everybody else is a non factor and should be ashamed"...the names he listed were just cats he's cool with in the industry and has done songs with, basically saying "I want all my homies to know even though we're cool I want to have the best verse on tracks we do together" (which is about as big of a "diss" as Lebron telling Melo or Chris Paul he wants to win when they play each other)...Mac Miller being named instead of 2Chainz don't mean sh!t other than he's cooler with Mac than he is with titi...sh!t's wasn't some kind of implied slight at 2chainz' standing in the game

And to that point, Feds Watching is currently #7 on urban radio and still trending upwards, gaining spins...

http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/radiofacts/Charts.asp?format=U1R
can u nikkas STOP sayin the shyt wasnt a diss?..it may not have been a personal diss..but it was a diss..it was a challenge..end of story...he crowned himself of a city he's not from and never lived at...and he called out those cats BY NAME and told them basically to step they bars up cause he out to take all they fans and be above them and run the game..sayin MY name and then after that sayin "imma tryna murder u(not literally of course" and "I'm tryna make sure ur CORE fans never heard of u" is a fukkin challenge...a shot..a diss..period...like I said..while not some personal beef...it still was a diss..
 
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I don't get it though... "Fedz Watching" is a very tough song to me but people just aren't feeling his sh1t this time around. I was at a hookah lounge and when that sh1t came on, I noticed I was the only nicca in there vibing to that sh1t but Versace came on and people went crazy.

He's needs to get Drizzy and Mike Will on the phone and push that album back asap.
Im having a hard time understanding feds watching also, The robbery hurt his image big time, he should of kept it real and said he got caught slipping and they had the drop, and he tried to runaway with his tree. Him trying to play like he aint get robbed and such then backpedal made him seem like a complete joke, when nikkas get robbed everyday it happens....
 

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can u nikkas STOP sayin the shyt wasnt a diss?

I can't STOP having common fukking sense homie, sorry :ld:

..it may not have been a personal diss..but it was a diss..it was a challenge..end of story..

We just got different ideas of what constitutes a diss...cause a challenge ain't a diss...Kobe coming out in the media and telling somebody he's gonna drop 40 on them isn't a "diss", it's an appeal to competition...he didn't tell them to "step they bars up", that's some extra sh!t you just throw in there to try to force it to be a diss because that would actually imply he thinks they're lacking...the people he named (wale, meek, etc.) somehow get it and understand it's a not a diss..but it's somehow beyond the realm of comprehension to you n!ggas :manny: ...sh!t was your typical ass rap n!gga boasting rhymes but with names in it that muhfukkas thristy for imaginary rap beef tried to turn into Hit 'em Up or some sh!t :pachaha:
 

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I can't STOP having common fukking sense homie, sorry :ld:



We just got different ideas of what constitutes a diss...cause a challenge ain't a diss...Kobe coming out in the media and telling somebody he's gonna drop 40 on them isn't a "diss", it's an appeal to competition...he didn't tell them to "step they bars up", that's some extra sh!t you just throw in there to try to force it to be a diss because that would actually imply he thinks they're lacking...the people he named (wale, meek, etc.) somehow get it and understand it's a not a diss..but it's somehow beyond the realm of comprehension to you n!ggas :manny: ...sh!t was your typical ass rap n!gga boasting rhymes but with names in it that muhfukkas thristy for imaginary rap beef tried to turn into Hit 'em Up or some sh!t :pachaha:
They understand its not a diss cause they p*ssy and run around claiming that "I'm the king of the game" and "I'm the best" shyt all day and when someone tells em to step up to the challenge they choose to take it as a compliment instead of a challenge...in any other era of hip hop..shyt woulda been a diss...NOW all of a sudden nikkas tryna get into the psyche of the nikka who sent the shots on some " he prolly meant it this way" or "he's didnt mean what he said he's just having fun" meanwhile that nikka ain't defend himself not once...shyt is funny to me..yea it was a typical bragging and boasting verse and I do mean typical cause aside from the name dropping that shyt was generic as fukk...but when u brag and boast at the expense of MY city and MY NAME..yes..it's a diss..in the hip hop world...it warrants a response..it's a challenge..and I'm not gonna brush it off as a compliment.these nikkas can go ahead and keep thinking its a compliment and let the nikka start runnin shyt all they want...lol...he just gonna be laughin all the way to the bank...I'm tired of nikkas talkin bout how nikkas dont "get" it...son there's nothin to get...he made what he said clear as day...whether nikkas choose to ignore it or not is on them..
 

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They understand its not a diss cause they p*ssy and run around claiming that "I'm the king of the game" and "I'm the best" shyt all day and when someone tells em to step up to the challenge they choose to take it as a compliment instead of a challenge...in any other era of hip hop..shyt woulda been a diss...NOW all of a sudden nikkas tryna get into the psyche of the nikka who sent the shots on some " he prolly meant it this way" or "he's didnt mean what he said he's just having fun" meanwhile that nikka ain't defend himself not once...shyt is funny to me..yea it was a typical bragging and boasting verse and I do mean typical cause aside from the name dropping that shyt was generic as fukk...but when u brag and boast at the expense of MY city and MY NAME..yes..it's a diss..in the hip hop world...it warrants a response..it's a challenge..and I'm not gonna brush it off as a compliment.these nikkas can go ahead and keep thinking its a compliment and let the nikka start runnin shyt all they want...lol...he just gonna be laughin all the way to the bank...I'm tired of nikkas talkin bout how nikkas dont "get" it...son there's nothin to get...he made what he said clear as day...whether nikkas choose to ignore it or not is on them..

I agree a challenge warrants a response...just not the response an actual diss record does...the actual best response to one of your homeboys saying he's gonna beat you in any competitive event, is to call his bluff, make him try and prove it...and best him instead...ain't like he's not doing song with these dudes all the time...he does, and getting outshined by or failing to clearly separate himself from them ain't a rare occurrence...I had a different reaction to that verse than most of the hype orgy that was going on over it last week...people were getting more amped for him talking about outrapping people on tracks than actually doing it...to me he has more of an onus to live up to all that big sh!t he was spitting on the track more than those dudes have to rush out and make some silly ass overly emotional response diss track to a non-diss...the way he's talking, he can't make anymore tracks like 1Train where he's on a song with numerous people he named in that Control verse...sounding pedestrian, not separating himself from any of them and clearly getting outshined by Big Krit...where was that undying sense of "competition" then? It gotta be Eminem Renegade level washes from here on out or I'm calling :beli: ....the only response those dudes should give is acknowledgement of the "challenge", and let the rapping do the talking from there...rushing out and throwing out a diss track would've just made them seem pressed and insecure IMO

The new york thing...i mean I get it...any NYC rapper that feels they're the king of the city should feel a type of way anytime somebody else claims it
 

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I agree a challenge warrants a response...just not the response an actual diss record does...the actual best response to one of your homeboys saying he's gonna beat you in any competitive event, is to call his bluff, make him try and prove it...and best him instead...ain't like he's not doing song with these dudes all the time...he does, and getting outshined by or failing to clearly separate himself from them ain't a rare occurrence...I had a different reaction to that verse than most of the hype orgy that was going on over it last week...people were getting more amped for him talking about outrapping people on tracks than actually doing it...to me he has more of an onus to live up to all that big sh!t he was spitting on the track more than those dudes have to rush out and make some silly ass overly emotional response diss track to a non-diss...the way he's talking, he can't make anymore tracks like 1Train where he's on a song with numerous people he named in that Control verse...sounding pedestrian, not separating himself from any of them and clearly getting outshined by Big Krit...where was that undying sense of "competition" then? It gotta be Eminem Renegade level washes from here on out or I'm calling :beli: ....the only response those dudes

The new york thing...i mean I get it...any NYC rapper that feels they're the king of the city should feel a type of way anytime somebody else claims it
Most of the responses was tasteful and not emotional at all...but fukk it if it is...nikkas need that passion for fukkin rap...he said rappers names..issued a challenge..u seem to be focused on ur definition of the word "diss"..lol...it was shots fired fam...and however the shots get fired back..is on the shooter...some people will be more strategic wit they shyt..some wont..but I think he left it so ANYONE who felt a way could respond...the way he set the shyt up..he knew what would happen..he wanted all this attention...he got it...and I'm pretty sure he prepared for it...it is what it is..I ain't knocking nobody who responds...if he has a problem..I'm pretty sure he will step up and say some shyt...until then.. :manny:
 

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Is there anything that Drama's ever done that showed he has any integrity or any real love for the art? He's done good business in the hip-hop world, but I doubt he's overly concerned about skill, talent, etc.
I don't think he has any place commenting on who is hot or not.
 
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