Do Black Americans have it easier than Caribbean Blacks?

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:wtf: damn near every Caribbean breh I know who is college educated, either has a degree in engineering or some type of accounting / business background because they actually plan on owning property or various businesses. The ones who go to school, don't play.....

Go to Brooklyn,ny, and watch that thought change quick. That's why all the shyt I hear like this always have me with the :comeon: face. I saw both sides. People who were about education, and people who helped fukk the community up. I learned the history of east flatbush in brooklyn, and learned that the reason it got so bad was because a lot of low income/low educated foreigners were allowed to live there in the late 70', early 80's. Places like the vanderveer(now called flatbush gardens) turned into dangerous spots in the east. Before that it was a place people who had low money can raise a family. Now, it wasn't just because they were low educated foreigners, the coke/crack game was effecting nyc in a bad way also. When you put two & two together, those low income people got into the drug game, and violence increased. I also saw west indians in the east who raised their families, and got better out of life. The same things I saw in bed-stuy which was majority AA. Queens was mostly AA(the black parts) and I used to think it was :blessed: because of the beautiful ladies. But they had some fukked up parts too. Not like brooklyn though.

I just don't understand where all of this West Indians are more educated stuff comes from. Maybe the ones who just got here but if you are including those who were here for most of their life, I'm confused. Maybe that's why I don't see them as special, just regular people who do the same things most other people do. I can't speak on Africans because there aren't that many of them to even speak on them as a whole.

Now, people who I would call special are the JEWS! Them nikkas just think different. I'm not saying its good or bad, but different. The question should be asked, do jews have it harder or better, then most Americans?
 
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Man yall got some fukked up relatives.....
they watch too much tv. they think america is some pie in the sky shyt where you dont have to work hard. regardless of being a fukkin fresh african, carib-american, african american, whatever divisive ass name people wanna use to split us up... u can work hard as shyt in america and still not have shyt. its CACs who dont have shyt. a portion of islanders dont understand that.

:wtf: damn near every Caribbean breh I know who is college educated, either has a degree in engineering or some type of accounting / business background because they actually plan on owning property or various businesses. The ones who go to school, don't play.....

this depends on a few different factors. i know a lot of fukk ups, a few engineer types, and a few in between. but i mainly know jamaicans and trinis.
 

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Although Black Immigrants tend to have more education than their Black American counterparts (especially Nigerians), the degrees that they earn in their native countries aren't always respected, which means they may have to jump through alot of hoops in order to work in their field of study.
Nigerians are educated in their country, but the top blacks earning degrees in the westernized right-wing countries are Continental Africans. And that would include the USA, with France, UK,Germany and Canada being part of the lists-
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You are an idiot.:pacspit: You are also naive like Poiter. Black immigrants were also victims of white supremacy. Stop acting like blacks from overseas didn't get hanged and penned down with harsh prison sentences.

Yes white supremacy was sometimes even more brutal in the island, but many of these West Indian countries had to experience lawlessness ,bad riots, civil unrest and very bad drug organizations. People fail to realize that the Caribbean and South America goes has rougher hoods and ghettoes than the ones in the States.


I'm still trying to get a grasp on how so, I have family down there aside from a few minor things like cuisine and going to festivals / carnival, peeps out there aren't really doing any much different than what I would be doing in the states. Except if I lived that close to the beach, I'd go swimming at least once a day, and reflect on life watching the sunset :manny:

And yeah that's what I'm saying a lot of young cats are copy catting, us in the states. nikkas out there be fukking with chief keef and ross heavy, as well as trying to model their cliques / crews and gangs off tv...

I don´t think so, must be some fake little kids watching something they´ve seen on the net. I have asked some West Indian folks the same thing because I have noticed some dancehall artists using gang signs, and they refute any copycat gangs exists in the islands or Caribbean. Belize an extension of the Caribbean has some of them because they are Belizeans that migrated to South Central in the 70s and 80s.
 

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Jamaicans, and other groups are so busy trying to get here to get a piece of what we made, and you got white folks owning the resorts and everything of value in your native country and with all your pride and accomplishments y'all don't go back and build any real infrastructure in your alleged native homeland. And just like every other group of foreign black people, I ask how many of y'all were clamoring to run here when we were getting our ass beat in the streets and lynched for looking at white women, or just for being black. So miss me with that.

People like you reallu need to start reading books and educating yourselves :upsetfavre:
 

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I don´t think so, must be some fake little kids watching something they´ve seen on the net. I have asked some West Indian folks the same thing because I have noticed some dancehall artists using gang signs, and they refute any copycat gangs exists in the islands or Caribbean. Belize an extension of the Caribbean has some of them because they are Belizeans that migrated to South Central in the 70s and 80s.
Of course these cats are emulating stuff off the net. How else they up on chief keef, and what not, naming they're crews after Chicago gangs :snoop:. It's not necessarily big, but it's not unheard for cats from rival crews to shoot at each other, or even kill someone :smh:. But I remember my first cousin, a reliable source said there are factions of cats he grew up with, that are supposedly "crips" and "bloods". I'm from LA, so this is the biggest :wtf:

I mean I can only report on the where I'm from, but I'm sure there's some weird variation of this, that goes on other islands as well.....

Oh yeah, and I'm saying this like it's an epidemic, I'm just saying that it's out there. Must people in the Carribean aint acting like these cats, but occassionly someone gets robbed, shot, or killed, and it usually has something to do with these crews...
 

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Of course these cats are emulating stuff off the net. How else they up on chief keef, and what not, naming they're crews after Chicago gangs :snoop:. It's not necessarily big, but it's not unheard for cats from rival crews to shoot at each other, or even kill someone :smh:. But I remember my first cousin, a reliable source said there are factions of cats he grew up with, that are supposedly "crips" and "bloods". I'm from LA, so this is the biggest :wtf:

I mean I can only report on the where I'm from, but I'm sure there's some weird variation of this, that goes on other islands as well.....

Oh yeah, and I'm saying this like it's an epidemic, I'm just saying that it's out there. Must people in the Carribean aint acting like these cats, but occassionly someone gets robbed, shot, or killed, and it usually has something to do with these crews...

They´re crews and posses everywhere especially in the Caribbean but the politics are not based Crip and blood hoopla.
 

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on some real shyt, i could give a fukk less about the contradictions. Just telling bull to relax cuz most ppl can't comprehend what he was trying to say
We comprehend well, we know there is a difference of culture. So Beyond a few small differences whats the real issue?

Those few cultural differences never stop Caribbeans for working for the Best interest of ALL black people in the past.
You saying Caribbean Americans are more influenced by Latino culture than Black American culture?
That you'd rather be grouped with them than AAs? The second half of your post confused me.
Wasn't the question about progressiveness & upward mobility not cultural differences/influences?
 
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We comprehend well, we know there is a difference of culture. So Beyond a few small differences whats the real issue?

West Indian culture influences AA culture. Why is that a bad thing?
 
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