Do Cavs "fans" honestly believe they will win the 2015 NBA title?

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Didn't the Spurs just destroy a much better "Big 3" by playing elite defense? Make sure you've checked the stats before you answer.
While the spurs should be the favorite you can't compare these cavs to those heat. We're a much better rebounding team. Pg isn't one of our weaknesses and we're a deeper team. You're comparing apples to oranges.
 

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Tony Parker will bust Kyrie's ass. That matchup will get ugly
No he won't. Kyrie can hold his own against anybody. He's much better than Chalmers:heh: And we're finally going to get a motivated kyrie with actual talent around him. And he finally has a coach who can properly utilize all his talents. We have yet to see the best from uncle drew:banderas:
 

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While the spurs should be the favorite you can't compare these cavs to those heat. We're a much better rebounding team. Pg isn't one of our weaknesses and we're a deeper team. You're comparing apples to oranges.

What's good, Buckmatic (nice username). Apples and oranges is correct; just not in the way you're describing them. Cavs are a far worse team. Wade carried a healthy Lj in 2 of 4 Finals appearances while Lj played horribly (in 2011 and last season when Miami topped the Spurs), is 1000x better than Kyrie, and more experienced. Bosh is better and more experienced than Love. Wade and Bosh are known for their defense. Love and Kyrie are known for their lack of defense. Wade and Bosh have led their teams to post-season success. Love and Kyrie have not led their teams to a post-season appearance. That Heat team had elite defenders around their "Big 3".

Weak pg play never stopped Miami. Mario underperformed during the entire "Big 3" era. He was only asked to defend because Lj can't play off the ball (click here to read him saying as much). Because of this, Lj will play pg again, so that won't be an issue.
 
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What's good, Buckmatic (nice username). Apples and oranges is correct; just not in the way you're describing them. Cavs are a far worse team. Wade carried a healthy Lj in 2 of 4 Finals appearances while Lj played horribly (in 2011 and last season when Miami topped the Spurs), is 1000x better than Kyrie, and more experienced. Bosh is better and more experienced than Love. Wade and Bosh are known for their defense. Love and Kyrie are known for their lack of defense. Wade and Bosh have led their teams to post-season success. Love and Kyrie have not led their teams to post-season appearances. That Heat team had elite defenders around their "Big 3". Weak pg play never stopped Miami. Mario underperformed during the entire "Big 3" era. He was only asked to defend because Lj can't play off the ball (click here to read him saying as much). Because of this, Lj will play pg again, so that won't be an issue.

Stellar analysis on the 2014-2015 Cavs.

I'm sure you put in mad hours of work watching them play on the court together in your mind.

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What's good, Buckmatic (nice username). Apples and oranges is correct; just not in the way you're describing them. Cavs are a far worse team. Wade carried a healthy Lj in 2 of 4 Finals appearances while Lj played horribly (in 2011 and last season when Miami topped the Spurs), is 1000x better than Kyrie, and more experienced. Bosh is better and more experienced than Love. Wade and Bosh are known for their defense. Love and Kyrie are known for their lack of defense. Wade and Bosh have led their teams to post-season success. Love and Kyrie have not led their teams to a post-season appearance.

That Heat team had elite defenders around their "Big 3". Weak pg play never stopped Miami. Mario underperformed during the entire "Big 3" era. He was only asked to defend because Lj can't play off the ball (click here to read him saying as much). Because of this, Lj will play pg again, so that won't be an issue.


How about actually letting them play a game before saying which one is better :ld:
 

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What's good, Buckmatic (nice username). Apples and oranges is correct; just not in the way you're describing them. Cavs are a far worse team. Wade carried a healthy Lj in 2 of 4 Finals appearances while Lj played horribly (in 2011 and last season when Miami topped the Spurs), is 1000x better than Kyrie, and more experienced. Bosh is better and more experienced than Love. Wade and Bosh are known for their defense. Love and Kyrie are known for their lack of defense. Wade and Bosh have led their teams to post-season success. Love and Kyrie have not led their teams to post-season appearances. That Heat team had elite defenders around their "Big 3". Weak pg play never stopped Miami. Mario underperformed during the entire "Big 3" era. He was only asked to defend because Lj can't play off the ball (click here to read him saying as much). Because of this, Lj will play pg again, so that won't be an issue.
What's good with you ma and thanks on the username:smugdraper:
Now lets be real,you acting as if bron was bj being carried by mj:mjlol: And I doubt Wade is 1000x better than kyrie:heh: Especially at this point in his career. And you're focusing to much on the big three. Did Miami have a fourth option as good as waiters? @Eye Cue 182 can answer that for you:jawalrus: And you're still discounting the fact that the cavs will be one of the best if not the best rebounding team in the league. And you can't blame love or kyrie for not leading horrible teams to the playoffs. And guess what...they won't have to lead this team either because they will be the 2nd and 3rd options respectively. And pg play was clearly a problem. If Chalmers would played better,it would have made Parker work harder on defense giving him less energy on offense. And you said yourself bron had to play out of position. Well with kyrie here,he won't have to worry about that.
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What's good with you ma and thanks on the username:smugdraper:
@Eye Cue 182 can answer that for you:jawalrus: And you're still discounting the fact that the cavs will be one of the best if not the best rebounding team in the league. And you can't blame love or kyrie for not leading horrible teams to the playoffs. And guess what...they won't have to lead this team either because they will be the 2nd and 3rd options respectively. And pg play was clearly a problem. If Chalmers would played better,it would have made Parker work harder on defense giving him less energy on offense. And you said yourself bron had to play out of position. Well with kyrie here,he won't have to worry about that.

Miami was the worst rebounding them in the league but always a top 10 defense. I'm not blaming Kyrie or Love for missing the Playoffs. I'm just saying it takes a certain caliber of player to do things like take 17-win teams to 40+ wins in a tough West, getting them to the Playoffs like 'Melo has done. Kyrie and Love have shown that they aren't those players, thereby, making them unworthy to be compared to players like Wade and Bosh.

Mario wasn't even an option. Two of the "Big 3" played terribly. Lj got punked by Kawhi again (click here to read about it), causing him to disappear for 3 quarters per game, average 3.6ppg in the 4th quarter in a series where his teammates needed him most, and earn MVP against his putrid defense. Wade was punked by Green, probably because of his knees again. Bosh played well but wasn't rewarded with being more involved with the offense. Lj is to blame for that because he knows that no one is allowed take the ball from him. He's the primary ball-handler and runs the offense. He did a terrible job of it. That's why Diaw had more assist than he did. Spo and Riley are also to blame.

I guarantee you Lj will be the primary ball-handler again and Kyrie will play off the ball. Lj wasn't out of position. He needs the ball in his hands all the time. He said it. That's why it's been that way his whole career.

That said, I love Lj and I hope and know he will one day get a ch'ip for Cleveland.
 

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Didn't the Spurs just destroy a much better "Big 3" by playing elite defense? Make sure you've checked the stats before you answer.

That's the thing though that Heat team isn't better than this Cavs team. The offense will be more versatile and it won't have to start and end with Lebron. The Cavs will have to figure some things out as they go but in the end their talent and the coaching will get them to the Finals. From there we'll just have to see how it plays out...still damn near a year to go.
 

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Miami was the worst rebounding them in the league but always a top 10 defense. I'm not blaming Kyrie or Love for missing the Playoffs. I'm just saying it takes a certain caliber of player to do things like take 17-win teams to 40+ wins in a tough West, getting them to the Playoffs like 'Melo has done. Kyrie and Love have shown that they aren't those players, thereby, making them unworthy to be compared to players like Wade and Bosh.

Mario wasn't even an option. Two of the "Big 3" played terribly. Lj got punked by Kawhi again (click here to read about it), causing him to disappear for 3 quarters per game, average 3.6ppg in the 4th quarter in a series where his teammates needed him most, and earn MVP against his putrid defense. Wade was punked by Green, probably because of his knees again. Bosh played well but wasn't rewarded with being more involved with the offense. Lj is to blame for that because he knows that no one is allowed take the ball from him. He's the primary ball-handler and runs the offense. He did a terrible job of it. That's why Diaw had more assist than he did. Spo and Riley are also to blame.

I guarantee you Lj will be the primary ball-handler again and Kyrie will play off the ball. Lj wasn't out of position. He needs the ball in his hands all the time. He said it. That's why it's been that way his whole career.

That said, I love Lj and I hope and know he will one day get a ch'ip for Cleveland.
Just remember to compare Blatt's system to Spo's. Gonna make for an interesting season:mjpls:
 
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