Do other groups demand tangibles for their votes?

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Their billions come at the exploitation and expense of black people

The type of people that are billionaires are not magnanimous to beging with.

Ain't shyt you or I can do about that. So that's moot.

But that still doesn't say anything as to why we have no PACs. Those same billionaires are magnanimous to do it on their side. Smart power consolidates itself.
 

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It’s like these political shrills on here just want black people to just go out and vote and expect absolutely nothing from it.

Mothafukk that shyt.
People who vote get something out of it. Whether its public school funding, policy on healthcare, tax reform, etc etc etc. Some people just don't give a fukk about nothing because they live in a bubble and don't realize how voting and the government effects their day to day. For one, I believe in DEI programs and Affirmative Action, that to me is a tangible. Do you care about those programs?
 

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As usual, we're intended to be the manual labor of the voting process while all the other 'real grown ups' manage the money and gains.

Yet, when we suggest a strike, all the other good manual laborers, like @skylove4 (I saw that, fakkit), admonish us to get back to picking the cotton.
Aww girl. It hurts to see talk like this. Don’t be like these other uncouthly women. Apologize to that man asap.
 

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We need to educate ourselves on elections and local politics. Starting from school boards and city councils. We need to develop politicians, but we also need to develop a voting base who cares about the politics in their communities. Once we do this and push to get everyone registered to vote, we become a massive problem for anyone. American politics is determined by so few votes, you can push for so much change with just enough support.

Withholding votes without a plan when so much is at stake is extremely shortsighted. There's so much on the ballot these next few years that directly have an impact on our lives.
There's power in local activism and lobbying. One of my acquaintances is a community activist. It's also made me want to participate in Urban League events, etc.

But community activism is not the same as political but I do like that we're doing it.
 

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No because they focus on building power on a grass roots level.

Nazis invested in think tanks(John birch society, heritage foundation, pragerU) and those people provided scholarships to white supremacists who wanted to go to law school and supported their runs for office after they graduated.

Now abortion and affirmative action are off the books. The president is now immune from any crimes he commits if be claims it's an 'official act' before he does it. Next is brown V board, and more. Project 2025 was created by these grassroots organizations and now it's in the hands of every elected right wing psycho in the country.

They didn't childishly ask for something and disenfranchise themselves in the process. They made shyt happen by building networks, voting down ballot and forcing these issues into the main stream
 

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When other groups demand stuff they don't usually have people that look like them being tokens and undermining the demands. Black people the only group that gets gaslighted consistently about things being done for us being considered "handouts" or it being flipped into us being lazy or whatever.
 

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Let's talk about it :jbhmm:

White folks, in their capacity as racist white people not just generalized "Americans" - certainly do.

Whether or not those things get implemented, in the way these white folks want them to be implemented is a different discussion.

Tangibles that Racists Whites (et al) got From Trump

1) Got the wall extended (didn't complete it) -
Trump wall: How much has he actually built?
2) Muslim Ban and Other Immigration Action - https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...-immigration-campaign-promises-idUSKCN25A18U/
3) Racist Republican Cubans got Trump to reverse Obama Moves in Cuba - Trump-O-Meter: | PolitiFact
4) The J's got him to move the Embassy to Jerusalem - Trump-O-Meter: | PolitiFact (and Biden has been Israel's greatest friend since the 70s and 80s)

Asians
1) Got a Hate Crimes Law out of Biden
- https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/9985...imes-bill-as-anti-asian-american-attacks-rise

Students/Graduates/Student Loan Holders

1) A smidge of relief - some people with truly bad loans get some relief, and a few others...but this is not like all the forgiven COVID loans made to the business class.

Typical interest groups/groups of people
  • Blacks and Latinos, from either camp? Laws, not really. Though some may benefit from things getting passed, those things weren't passed with Black or Latino people in mind.
  • LGBTs? Laws? Not really. - Hollywood is going to bat for them.
  • Women - Not really? - "Modern Women" took an L with the overturning of Roe.
  • Muslims/Middle Easterners that are not Jewish? - Not really.
  • Environmentalists - Naw, not really, imo. Chevron notwithstanding.
The "tangibles" argument, imo, is specious at best. It's very difficult to write a race-targeted law in America, especially when you've got conservatives groups suing those entities for stuff that are private contracts and dealings.
 

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if you really want to know some inside baseball on how the money works in Washington, watch The Distinguished Gentlemen. :sas1:
Not a great Eddie Murphy film but has some very insightful tidbits about politics in D.C.
Make sure you listen to the quiet parts, that's when game is shared.

This film was posted 2 years ago and is not a very known Eddie Murphy movie but it has 1.6 million views. That should tell you something about the quality of content in this film. :sas2:

 

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White folks, in their capacity as racist white people not just generalized "Americans" - certainly do.

Whether or not those things get implemented, in the way these white folks want them to be implemented is a different discussion.

Tangibles that Racists Whites (et al) got From Trump

1) Got the wall extended (didn't complete it) -
Trump wall: How much has he actually built?
2) Muslim Ban and Other Immigration Action - https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...-immigration-campaign-promises-idUSKCN25A18U/
3) Racist Republican Cubans got Trump to reverse Obama Moves in Cuba - Trump-O-Meter: | PolitiFact
4) The J's got him to move the Embassy to Jerusalem - Trump-O-Meter: | PolitiFact (and Biden has been Israel's greatest friend since the 70s and 80s)

Asians
1) Got a Hate Crimes Law out of Biden
- https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/9985...imes-bill-as-anti-asian-american-attacks-rise

Students/Graduates/Student Loan Holders

1) A smidge of relief - some people with truly bad loans get some relief, and a few others...but this is not like all the forgiven COVID loans made to the business class.

Typical interest groups/groups of people
  • Blacks and Latinos, from either camp? Laws, not really. Though some may benefit from things getting passed, those things weren't passed with Black or Latino people in mind.
  • LGBTs? Laws? Not really. - Hollywood is going to bat for them.
  • Women - Not really? - "Modern Women" took an L with the overturning of Roe.
  • Muslims/Middle Easterners that are not Jewish? - Not really.
  • Environmentalists - Naw, not really, imo. Chevron notwithstanding.
The "tangibles" argument, imo, is specious at best. It's very difficult to write a race-targeted law in America, especially when you've got conservatives groups suing those entities for stuff that are private contracts and dealings.
Good post man
 

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People who vote get something out of it. Whether its public school funding, policy on healthcare, tax reform, etc etc etc. Some people just don't give a fukk about nothing because they live in a bubble and don't realize how voting and the government effects their day to day. For one, I believe in DEI programs and Affirmative Action, that to me is a tangible. Do you care about those programs?

This.
 

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Whites do
Not sure about other races, it doesn't seem like they do but i'm not going pretend like i'm privy to what the chinese, indian, mexican etc community is demanding
 
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