BaldingSoHard
Banned
"damage the planet" is a bit of a misnomer. The planet is gonna be fine no matter what we do to it and will be here long after we've gone extinct.
Do people understand how badly we've damaged the planet ?
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the apathy and death wish much of the population seems to have is unbelievable
Drip Bayless
Superstar
Nah I mean damage the planet. You do realize all these problems we cause work their way up from a microscopic level? We fukk up the environment which fukks up the food chain and just gets worse as it goes upwards. Last time ocean levels were near this acidic 96% of marine life died
we need to start a HL climate change series that explains the science from the ground on up
I don't think a lot of people actually "understand" what is going on.
California, supplier of nearly half of all US fruits, veggies, and nuts, is on track to experience the driest year in the past half millennium. Farms use about 80 percentof the state's "developed water," or water that's moved from its natural source to other areas via pipes and aqueducts.
As the maps above show, much of California's agriculture is concentrated in the parts of the state that the drought has hit the hardest. For example: Monterey County, which is currently enduring an "exceptional drought," according to the US Drought Monitor, grew nearly half of America's lettuce and broccoli in 2012.
When it comes to water use, not all plants are created equal. Here's how much water some of California's major crops require:
Jay Lund, a water expert at the University of California-Davis, says that water problems mean that agriculture may soon play a less important role in California's economy, as the business of growing food moves to the South and the Midwest, where water is less expensive. Production rates for thirsty crops like alfalfa and cotton have already diminished significantly in the last few years. Between 2006 and 2010 alone, the amount of land irrigated for cotton fell by 46 percent.
In addition to farms, the drought affects municipal water supplies. There is so little water this year that some places are in danger of running out—and the little that is left could soon become undrinkable because of the high concentration of pollutants.
So how are Californians doing on water conservation? Here's how some cities stack up:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/wheres-californias-water-going
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
No, people don't understand at all. Not as a whole. There are people that do, but if everyone knew the shyt that was really going on, I think we'd work better to fix it. Until people (and by people I mean the lowest common denominator) have representatives in government that inform them of what the fukk is really going on, it won't get better.
It's corny, but this is our home, and we're killing it. It's so hard for most people to see. In many places, the water looks good, the air feels clean, the sky is blue. It's just out of sight, out of mind for most people.
It's corny, but this is our home, and we're killing it. It's so hard for most people to see. In many places, the water looks good, the air feels clean, the sky is blue. It's just out of sight, out of mind for most people.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
How shortsighted is that though
People will have a child without even thinking of what kind of life their kid is going to have because of their generation. Every new generation is an uphill battle and eventually one of them is just going to be completely fukked, if they even survive to adult age
Oh I think about it all the time. In fact the number one reason I have debated not having a kid in my own head would be what kind of world would I be bringing them into? Do I want my child to be alive in 2080? I don't know. I think the world will either get tremendously better or tremendously worse. The sad thing is that a lot of times people have to cross the line before they realize they've fukked up. Sometimes I don't think we'll see any substantial change on this issue until people's day to day lives start getting fukked with. Then, you'll start to see some changes. Once motherfukkers can't get clean drinking water, or there's no more gas to start their cars, or they're sick from polluted air---that's when people will start to talk about solutions. And you're right. It may be too late by that point.
i remember george carlin saying this planet was gonna shake us off like a bad case of food poisoning
Yep. "The planet is fine. The people are fukked." He's right too. When we say we're worried about the planet, we're worried about our ability to survive on it.
BaldingSoHard
Banned
^^ That
We could set off nukes over every square mile, stop the spinning of the earth's core, and poison every drop of water in the oceans, and the planet would be just fine. Nothing would survive, but the planet would still be here.
Drip Bayless
Superstar
Technically you right
Even if all life wiped out the earth would just be a barren mass of rock.
Although we pretty lucky the planet still here anyway, considering the shyt the universe throws at it
How shortsighted is that though
People will have a child without even thinking of what kind of life their kid is going to have because of their generation. Every new generation is an uphill battle and eventually one of them is just going to be completely fukked, if they even survive to adult age
No matter how bad things get humans will not stop having sex.
People still give birth to kids in the 3rd world that will starve to death and that's been going on before people worried about the environment.
Just to put things in perspective.
newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
Never thought about it, completely like that ....... The way you said it anyway
I think people care as long as it doesn't mess with their basic needs......but what qualifies as "needs" has morphed into the Western world's definition. Not a bad thing, cause I do enjoy living in the Western world lifestyle, for something as simple as not having shiit running in the middle of the street. That's a good thing, that I hope everybody should not have to deal with.
The needs of a small groups of people can be maintained with a good working farm, some fresh water, some decent shelter.
The needs of billions on top of billions of people requires other models.
The needs of billions on top of billions of people with the best infrastructure, requires an even more intense model.
Now factor in the fact that some of the most sustainable technologies aren't always "allowed" to permeate to the general public and you realize its not necessarily people not caring, but what is available to have a more sustainable and cleaner world. Basically, its a lot of fukkery going on, that has allowed the destruction of the earth to go on. Its mainly about protecting money, but other things as well.
Technically you right
Even if all life wiped out the earth would just be a barren mass of rock.
Although we pretty lucky the planet still here anyway, considering the shyt the universe throws at it
I agree. The Earth as a complex rock going around the sun is fine. The planet is fine and will be fine.
What is not fine, are the resources in the air, biosphere, water bodies, and underground humans and other animals and plant life require to survive at the most optimal level. We are fukking that up big time.
When we really don't have to be fukking it up.
You could argue we are eating ourselves alive, but really we are being allowed to do so.
If people thought about Earth as spaceship and not as a planet, then their whole notions of what they were walking around on would change. That's because a spaceship implies more directly there are no infinite amounts of anything, and you would be more inclined to support things that keep the spaceship functioning.
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Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Who is we? 
Esau is responsible for all this damage. Since, he took over the planet all he has done is created ways to pollute the planet, animals and plant species started declining when he took over. He has created GMO plants and animals and nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
He must be stopped and he will be stopped.
Esau is responsible for all this damage. Since, he took over the planet all he has done is created ways to pollute the planet, animals and plant species started declining when he took over. He has created GMO plants and animals and nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
He must be stopped and he will be stopped.
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newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
Bangladesh though 
and a few more countries ...... I mean ... ....that's a lot of motherfockers on a little piece of land relatively. So that's when things a get a little complex .....
and a few more countries ...... I mean ... ....that's a lot of motherfockers on a little piece of land relatively. So that's when things a get a little complex .....
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/nes...illing_— while_california_is_dying_of_thirst/
In particular, Nestlé has a 25-year contract with the Morongo Band of Cahuila Mission Indians to draw water from wells in Millard Canyon, in the desert city of Cabazon. The plant is one of the largest in North America. Morongo, which also has a casino that features entertainment from the likes of REO Speedwagon and Australian male revue “Thunder From Down Under,” no longer provides statistics on how much water Nestlé pumps out of the underground spring. But independent statistics put the total anywhere between 200 and 250 million gallons a year.
This is a small number in the grand scheme of things: the water restrictions announced by Gov. Brown would save 500 billion gallons a year, or 2,000 times as much as what Nestlé pumps out. But Nestlé has at least a dozen such operations statewide, many in severely dry regions. And the fact that they’ve turned exporting groundwater during a drought into a moneymaking enterprise is absurd. The Morongo plant alone produces over 1 billion bottles of water per year, and the parent company, Nestlé Waters North America, earned annual revenues of $4 billion from its 29 facilities in 2012. Plus, pulling water from an oasis magnifies the environmental impact on the desert ecosystem. The water taken out would normally recharge the local underground aquifer or increase flow along a surface stream.
Morongo told the Palm Springs Desert Sun that the water plant creates 250 local jobs, and that they control the resources as part of their sovereign nation. And, given the history of American brutalization of native people, it’s hard to get too agitated about how tribal nations use their own land, which represents a tiny fraction of what they actually deserve. But the water actually belonged to the Cabazon Water District as recently as they early 2000s. They sold it to the Morongo tribe in a quick-cash privatization deal for just $3 million, enabling them to temporarily reduce water rates to customers. Morongo almost immediately struck the agreement with Nestlé, for access to a canyon that gushes 3,000 gallons of water per minute at full strength. Nestlé pays Morongo an undisclosed fee for every gallon they pump.
This has become a familiar corporate tactic in recent years — partnering with tribal nations to evade federal laws or restrictions. To use another, even savory example, an online payday-lending service located on Otoe-Missouria tribal lands in Oklahoma charges 448 percent interest to borrowers nationwide, even those living in states that have banned payday lending. The conservative Institute for Liberty, run by an ex-lobbyist for the National Federation for Independent Business, recently put up billboards in Connecticut, where the state banking department has tried to block the tribal lender, featuring a native child and the caption “Don’t take away my future.” The Institute for Liberty doesn’t have to disclose funders, but they are clearly running interference for the payday lending industry, using tribal members as a shield. Corporations routinely play on their association with tribes to keep profits rolling.
In particular, Nestlé has a 25-year contract with the Morongo Band of Cahuila Mission Indians to draw water from wells in Millard Canyon, in the desert city of Cabazon. The plant is one of the largest in North America. Morongo, which also has a casino that features entertainment from the likes of REO Speedwagon and Australian male revue “Thunder From Down Under,” no longer provides statistics on how much water Nestlé pumps out of the underground spring. But independent statistics put the total anywhere between 200 and 250 million gallons a year.
This is a small number in the grand scheme of things: the water restrictions announced by Gov. Brown would save 500 billion gallons a year, or 2,000 times as much as what Nestlé pumps out. But Nestlé has at least a dozen such operations statewide, many in severely dry regions. And the fact that they’ve turned exporting groundwater during a drought into a moneymaking enterprise is absurd. The Morongo plant alone produces over 1 billion bottles of water per year, and the parent company, Nestlé Waters North America, earned annual revenues of $4 billion from its 29 facilities in 2012. Plus, pulling water from an oasis magnifies the environmental impact on the desert ecosystem. The water taken out would normally recharge the local underground aquifer or increase flow along a surface stream.
Morongo told the Palm Springs Desert Sun that the water plant creates 250 local jobs, and that they control the resources as part of their sovereign nation. And, given the history of American brutalization of native people, it’s hard to get too agitated about how tribal nations use their own land, which represents a tiny fraction of what they actually deserve. But the water actually belonged to the Cabazon Water District as recently as they early 2000s. They sold it to the Morongo tribe in a quick-cash privatization deal for just $3 million, enabling them to temporarily reduce water rates to customers. Morongo almost immediately struck the agreement with Nestlé, for access to a canyon that gushes 3,000 gallons of water per minute at full strength. Nestlé pays Morongo an undisclosed fee for every gallon they pump.
This has become a familiar corporate tactic in recent years — partnering with tribal nations to evade federal laws or restrictions. To use another, even savory example, an online payday-lending service located on Otoe-Missouria tribal lands in Oklahoma charges 448 percent interest to borrowers nationwide, even those living in states that have banned payday lending. The conservative Institute for Liberty, run by an ex-lobbyist for the National Federation for Independent Business, recently put up billboards in Connecticut, where the state banking department has tried to block the tribal lender, featuring a native child and the caption “Don’t take away my future.” The Institute for Liberty doesn’t have to disclose funders, but they are clearly running interference for the payday lending industry, using tribal members as a shield. Corporations routinely play on their association with tribes to keep profits rolling.
My ignore list is too long... this must be the work of that bonehead Kritic
sorry, my jewish handlers told me to
you know how them zionists be
but they pay well
