Do people understand how badly we've damaged the planet ?

[CHL]

My ignore list is too long... this must be the work of that bonehead Kritic

Yep... it's about time I put that lunatic on ignore as well.

 

[Red Shield]

http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/

The world will just be reset by whatever created all of this. Our asses probably won't be around though...

 

[newworldafro]

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/nestles_despicable_water_crisis_profiteering_how_its_making_a_killing_— while_california_is_dying_of_thirst/

In particular, Nestlé has a 25-year contract with the Morongo Band of Cahuila Mission Indians to draw water from wells in Millard Canyon, in the desert city of Cabazon. The plant is one of the largest in North America. Morongo, which also has a casino that features entertainment from the likes of REO Speedwagon and Australian male revue “Thunder From Down Under,” no longer provides statistics on how much water Nestlé pumps out of the underground spring. But independent statistics put the total anywhere between 200 and 250 million gallons a year.

This is a small number in the grand scheme of things: the water restrictions announced by Gov. Brown would save 500 billion gallons a year, or 2,000 times as much as what Nestlé pumps out. But Nestlé has at least a dozen such operations statewide, many in severely dry regions. And the fact that they’ve turned exporting groundwater during a drought into a moneymaking enterprise is absurd. The Morongo plant alone produces over 1 billion bottles of water per year, and the parent company, Nestlé Waters North America, earned annual revenues of $4 billion from its 29 facilities in 2012. Plus, pulling water from an oasis magnifies the environmental impact on the desert ecosystem. The water taken out would normally recharge the local underground aquifer or increase flow along a surface stream.

Morongo told the Palm Springs Desert Sun that the water plant creates 250 local jobs, and that they control the resources as part of their sovereign nation. And, given the history of American brutalization of native people, it’s hard to get too agitated about how tribal nations use their own land, which represents a tiny fraction of what they actually deserve. But the water actually belonged to the Cabazon Water District as recently as they early 2000s. They sold it to the Morongo tribe in a quick-cash privatization deal for just $3 million, enabling them to temporarily reduce water rates to customers. Morongo almost immediately struck the agreement with Nestlé, for access to a canyon that gushes 3,000 gallons of water per minute at full strength. Nestlé pays Morongo an undisclosed fee for every gallon they pump.

This has become a familiar corporate tactic in recent years — partnering with tribal nations to evade federal laws or restrictions. To use another, even savory example, an online payday-lending service located on Otoe-Missouria tribal lands in Oklahoma charges 448 percent interest to borrowers nationwide, even those living in states that have banned payday lending. The conservative Institute for Liberty, run by an ex-lobbyist for the National Federation for Independent Business, recently put up billboards in Connecticut, where the state banking department has tried to block the tribal lender, featuring a native child and the caption “Don’t take away my future.” The Institute for Liberty doesn’t have to disclose funders, but they are clearly running interference for the payday lending industry, using tribal members as a shield. Corporations routinely play on their association with tribes to keep profits rolling.

I didn't realize the extent of groundwater holdings they had.... no wonder a Nestle representative caught so much attention for saying water is not a human right ........ ... Shiit is hilarious outchere. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pr...at-water-is-a-fundamental-human-right/5332238

Cotdamn, Mos Def was so on point with that "New World Water" track......

 

[Wild self]

Bu bu but free market and the economy.

There are cars like the Tesla that can run on 100% electricity, but corporate powers hate changes that don't financially benefit from. shyt, we could have had electric cars and solar power houses over a decade ago, but Republicans mainly killed that.

Plus, we got to save the species from extinction that excess damages of rainforest and melting ice caps.

 

[mbewane]

Typically a case of those who care don't have the means to act, and those who can don't give a fukk. Climate change can only be countered by implemeting long-term societal changes (by long term I mean 50-100 years perspective) that only governments COULD have the power to implement. However, everybody wants a couple cars and to keep on living the western lifestyle. So governments know damn well no one will back them IF they ever tried to really change shyt. And anyway multinationals give minus 1 trillion fukks about the environment.

Plus add that to the fact that the only useful action is collective action. If Nicaragua, Tanzania and Japan take action on their own it won't change shyt. The success of any action hinges on the involvment of ALL players. We all know the US gives a flying fukk about the environment/worldwide cooperation, China and India are on the come up on some "It's our turn now", and Europe is still too divided to have significant action as a whole.

So basically, not much will change, if anything.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The people with the power to change it are making a lot of money with things the way they are.

And honestly I think we're too far down the rabbit hole to turn back now.

fukk the planet, I'll be long gone

 

[DEAD7]

Bu bu but free market and the economy.

There are cars like the Tesla that can run on 100% electricity, but corporate powers hate changes that don't financially benefit from. shyt, we could have had electric cars and solar power houses over a decade ago, but Republicans mainly killed that.

Plus, we got to save the species from extinction that excess damages of rainforest and melting ice caps.

 

[Micky Mikey]

The planet will be just fine. Humans though......not so much. Humans are like fleas to this planet and mother nature will eventually shake us off

 

[OneManGang]

The western world is a very reactive society. Things of this scale do not get done proactively. Too much red tape. We are very much a "when you don't hear, you must feel" society.

For example, let's take 9/11. There is so much that could have done before hand to prevent that. But nothing was done, people sat on their hands, let it happen, and then dropped sweeping legislation to ensure something like that will never happen again.

We see it throughout out history. Major laws for safety whether it be industrial, medical, commercial, etc don't get passed until a tragedy occurs.

So the world won't begin to take this seriously until we are having serious super storm much more frequently, long lasting droughts and famine, extinction level events that hamper our ability to function at the level we are accustomed to. By that time though the damage will be done. When our coasts start disappearing in the next century it'll be very depressing.