Do Y'all Really Like Sade Though? Fake Sophisticated Music...

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This is how I know you're either a white troll or just divorced from black culture. Nobody with black grandparents talks like this. First off smooth jazz is a staple of black culture. It's technically fusion jazz that leans towards r&b. Young black people moved away from jazz throughout the 50s to the early 70s as other genres (r&b, funk, disco) took hold. Fusion is what got some black people back into jazz. Wayne Shorter (Weather Underground) , Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, etc suddenly had black people coming to their shows heavily again. From there different strands developed and black people generally preferred the smoother, less experimental ones. "Smooth jazz" became a marketing coinage for radio programming. The same way "quiet storm" did. And in both cases they were heavily geared towards older black listeners. Smooth jazz didn't become a topic of derision or stereotypes until the commercial b*stardization of Kenny G. That's not to say all or even most white artists were doing that shyt, because there are plenty who were respected at the time (Chuck Mangione, John McLaughlin, etc).

Sade's sound is exactly the type of shyt older black people have listened to since the mid 1970s. If you were a 40yo black person in 1977 you probably weren't listening to disco like that...you were listening to George Benson type shyt.


And nobody gives a shyt if her band had white people in it. Just like black people didn't give a shyt that Michael McDonald was white. Or Bobby Caldwell, who most people assumed was black lol. Or Hall & Oates who were staples on black radio programming at the time.


Notice how smooth that shyt is? This is the type of shyt black grandmas, aunts, and uncles bump. And if you can't see why Sade, Al Jarreau, and similar artists are beloved by black people you haven't been to a black cookout or family reunion.
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Please stop—you are projecting like crazy.

The "oh people are just pretending to like what they like for the image" is the WOAT take. It makes you look delusional

Companies spend billions marketing image so you, the consumer, begin to subconsciously associate their brand with something or someone you desire to be.

Are you pretending that her mysterious, exotic mixed-girl image doesn't play a role in their success? Come on, bro.

Again, if Adu looked like Caron Wheeler, the band would not be what it is.
 

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40 from south Ga. My Dad, my cousins, and my wife like her though. She just sounds like she's yawning and tired when she's singing. That boring shyt puts me to sleep.

Not gonna bash you over it. I think Sade would be an acquired taste if you weren't around in her hey day.. you 40, so most music you grew up on didnt revolve around live instruments or anything. Parents 9 times out of 10 shape what you would eventually like just by them playing it when you were young. Its rare to actually have your parents like her and you dont..lol
 

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I remember Jhene Aiko was trying to be the new Sade so bad..was even performing with a ponytail and no shoes on..lol

Sade birthed Jhene and in turn Jhene birthed..Summer Walker, Snoh Aalegra, Sza..list goes on
 

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Sade hasn’t made a bad album…

Perfect music to play alone in your thoughts plus Nas got to sniff the pu$$y.

Ain’t gonna be no Ms. Adu slander
 

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I remember Jhene Aiko was trying to be the new Sade so bad..was even performing with a ponytail and no shoes on..lol

Sade birthed Jhene and in turn Jhene birthed..Summer Walker, Snoh Aalegra, Sza..list goes on

All them acts not good. A lot of girls I wamt to smash.

If they never existed, music would not change one bit. Same goes for Sade.

I'm about to go smash...and not listen to Sade. Enjoy y'all weekend.
 

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See what I mean, all of this sounds like:



Tell me why it's good, don't tell me why I'm not black for saying I don't think it's good.



There are a few standouts (many of whom were standouts before) but most of it is forgettable, including Sade. Which is part of the point.

Again, the stuff Shorter, Davis, and Hancock created is meaningful and complex; it moved the needle. There is no comparison.



Not sure how Sade gets mentioned with the motherfukking prodigy George Benson. This is what I mean. There is no comparison. Dude had more talent in his pinky than she has talent period (she can't really even sing like that). Just admit it's background wine bar music. There is no problem with that, stop trying to make it something it ain't.



How is Sade a staple of black culture when the music is a watered down version of jazz (which truly is a significant part of black culture) created by white boys?

With a mixed girl who can't sing.

Even if it is a staple of black culture, what does that mean? I have to like it? You have to like it?

That's the point. I don't reflexively have to like Sade because one of my aunts may have listened to them.

I don't dislike Sade, even. I just don't think any of it moves the needle.



Again, you're reaffirming my point. You say it's good because older black people liked it and you grew up listening to them play it. Cool. It is familiar, doesn't mean Sade is good like that.


You're just repeating the same shyt over and over again like some dumb twitter fakkit
 

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I have a feeling that her songs are essentially referenced tracks for men to sing at karaoke

Try doing that and NOT getting laid :banderas:
 

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There are a few standouts (many of whom were standouts before) but most of it is forgettable, including Sade. Which is part of the point.

Again, the stuff Shorter, Davis, and Hancock created is meaningful and complex; it moved the needle. There is no comparison.



Not sure how Sade gets mentioned with the motherfukking prodigy George Benson. This is what I mean. There is no comparison. Dude had more talent in his pinky than she has talent period (she can't really even sing like that). Just admit it's background wine bar music. There is no problem with that, stop trying to make it something it ain't.

Black people collectively haven't fukked with advanced jazz in the last 60+ years. I'm not knocking the music - I prefer Miles, Coltrane, Shorter, etc over smooth jazz by far - I'm simply pointing out that white people embraced bebop and other advanced jazz far more than black people did. And even after hard bop brought more soul into the music it wasn't enough to sway most black people away from Motown/r&b. The reason jazz survived is because of fusion and the eventual adoption of smooth, easy listening jazz. Jazz artists playing r&b records for instance. You should probably examine why Miles Davis' most popular song with black people is his Human Nature cover - not So What, or Blue In Green, etc.

That's simply what most older black people enjoy listening to and Sade is apart of that equation. It has nothing to do with sophistication. If you don't get that older black people like easy, smooth music then I dunno what to tell you. Michael Jackson is the poster boy for that. He never fukked with rap and was instead listening to Anita Baker type shyt. His taste mirrored his parents' taste in music. So yea I'm def going to question your experiences because the average black person with baby boomer parents, aunts, uncles, etc knows exactly what type of music they listen to at cookouts, events, etc. Same applies if you go to a barbershop with an older barber - there's a 90% chance he's playing old r&b and smooth jazz. Including Sade. Because that is black culture.

So miss me with the bullshyt, thanks.
 

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Black people collectively haven't fukked with advanced jazz in the last 60+ years. I'm not knocking the music - I prefer Miles, Coltrane, Shorter, etc over smooth jazz by far - I'm simply pointing out that white people embraced bebop and other advanced jazz far more than black people did. And even after hard bop brought more soul into the music it wasn't enough to sway most black people away from Motown/r&b. The reason jazz survived is because of fusion and the eventual adoption of smooth, easy listening jazz. Jazz artists playing r&b records for instance. You should probably examine why Miles Davis' most popular song with black people is his Human Nature cover - not So What, or Blue In Green, etc.

That's simply what most older black people enjoy listening to and Sade is apart of that equation. It has nothing to do with sophistication. If you don't get that older black people like easy, smooth music then I dunno what to tell you. Michael Jackson is the poster boy for that. He never fukked with rap and was instead listening to Anita Baker type shyt. His taste mirrored his parents' taste in music. So yea I'm def going to question your experiences because the average black person with baby boomer parents, aunts, uncles, etc knows exactly what type of music they listen to at cookouts, events, etc. Same applies if you go to a barbershop with an older barber - there's a 90% chance he's playing old r&b and smooth jazz. Including Sade. Because that is black culture.

So miss me with the bullshyt, thanks.
I think you meant Michael Jordan but yeah. Black people born before Gen X who didn't grow up in the tri-state or LA, that's their general taste.
 
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