Do yall think Len Bias was really gone be as good as he was hyped

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:mjlol: Da fukk a lil highlight mean?

Jordan was never looked at as the next big thing while at UNC,wasn't until he got to the league and started tearing shyt up,people started anointing him:francis:
:what: dude was a star in college and went top 5 in the draft. Of course no one projected him to be the GOAT but it's not like he was a nobody in college. Dude played with Perkins and Worthy, which is prob why he wasn't even more highly regarded than he was. BTW that lil highlight is his game winning national championship shot.
 
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:what: dude was a star in college and went top 5 in the draft. Of course no one projected him to be the GOAT but it's not like he was a nobody in college. Dude played with Perkins and Worthy, which is prob why he wasn't even more highly regarded than he was. BTW that lil highlight is his game winning national championship shot.

Obviously he was a star in college,but nobody knew he would be what he is today point blank period:francis: The thread title is what my answers are based off on,quit being stupid
 

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And nobody saw him as a franchise type player either:beli:
:whoa:I wouldn't go that far either

He was clearly a standout player on a great unc team. Nobody predicted him to change the face of the NBA the way he did.
"When I drafted him, I said, 'OK, we're gonna get a good player here,'" said Rod Thorn,
the Nets president who was Chicago's GM when the Bulls had the No. 3 pick in 1984.

"I thought, he'll come in and play and help us. But to think that he would be what he turned out to be? No way. No way."

As great as his trade was for Jason Kidd, turning the Nets into a championship

contender for the first time, Thorn's drafting of Jordan will always be his legacy as an NBA executive. Before the Nets took on

Detroit in the Meadowlands this past week, he sat at courtside and talked about the draft that changed the course of pro basketball history.

"Back then, the knock on Michael was that he couldn't shoot the ball,"
Thorn recalled. "For a long time, that first season, he just drove the ball

to the basket and he didn't need a shot. But Michael was so smart, he learned from taking some mighty licks.

So he said, 'I gotta get a jump shot,' and he got one. But when we looked at him for the draft,

he was 195 pounds and 6-6, so he was kind of thin. So the biggest thing about him was, can he make a shot?
We wondered what kind of shooter he'd be."

Thorn could only go off of the tapes of Jordan he'd watched in Dean Smith's office in Chapel Hill several months before the draft.

"Back then, you didn't work guys out," he said. "We never worked Michael out. But I was very good friends with Dean, and every year, I'd go down to North Carolina for two or three days and he would let me watch tapes of all the ACC players.

That's how I scouted the entire league. Dean thought Michael would be a really good pro - a better pro player than a college player."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2009/04/04/2009-04-04_with_...

After the tape sessions, Thorn went back to Chicago thinking he would draft Jordan. But if Jordan was gone, his plan was to take another Tar Heel player, forward Sam Perkins. Before making it final, Thorn decided to attend the SEC Tournament to get a first-hand look at Auburn's Charles Barkley.

"Alabama threw a zone at Charles and he had six points, fouled out and played an awful game. He couldn't make an outside shot," Thorn said. "So I left there thinking, 'How is this guy ever going to be a big-time player in pro ball? He's just too small to do what he was doing in college in the NBA.'"

But it worked out just the way Thorn wanted. Olajuwon went first to Houston, Portland took Sam Bowie second and Jordan went to the Bulls.

"When training camp started, I was not there for our first practice," Thorn said. "After they finished, I got a call from Bill Blair, who was an assistant coach, and he said, 'Rod, you didn't screw this draft up. This guy is pretty good.' Well, you know how coaches are.

They just don't say that kind of stuff about a rookie. So I felt pretty good. Then the next day, I got a call from Kevin Loughery, our head coach, and he said, 'This guy is pretty good.' So I said, 'Wait a minute, he must be pretty dad-gone good if Kevin is calling me, too.'"

"Pretty dad-gone good" turned into much, much more, not so long after Thorn left Chicago in 1985. As Jordan grew into an iconic figure, known the world over, he took the league to unparalleled heights as the Bulls won six titles in eight seasons.

"We had the Bird and Magic era and they were wonderful to watch, with that great rivalry of theirs," Jackson said. "But Michael Jordan ..."

The former Bulls coach paused, looking for the right words to sum it all up. Finally, he smiled and said, "When Michael Jordan played the game, you couldn't take your eyes off him."
Lawrence: Thorn remembers floating on 'Air'
 

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Jordan was also the National Player of the Year he came out...the primary reason he wasnt anointed was because ir was still seen as a big man game until he came along and changed that notion..Len Bias was a beast and his game looks lot it would not only translate, but soar to even higher heights as he extended his range and developed a handle..
 
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:whoa:I wouldn't go that far either

He was clearly a standout player on a great unc team. Nobody predicted him to change the face of the NBA the way he did.
"When I drafted him, I said, 'OK, we're gonna get a good player here,'" said Rod Thorn,
the Nets president who was Chicago's GM when the Bulls had the No. 3 pick in 1984.

"I thought, he'll come in and play and help us. But to think that he would be what he turned out to be? No way. No way."

As great as his trade was for Jason Kidd, turning the Nets into a championship

contender for the first time, Thorn's drafting of Jordan will always be his legacy as an NBA executive. Before the Nets took on

Detroit in the Meadowlands this past week, he sat at courtside and talked about the draft that changed the course of pro basketball history.

"Back then, the knock on Michael was that he couldn't shoot the ball,"
Thorn recalled. "For a long time, that first season, he just drove the ball

to the basket and he didn't need a shot. But Michael was so smart, he learned from taking some mighty licks.

So he said, 'I gotta get a jump shot,' and he got one. But when we looked at him for the draft,

he was 195 pounds and 6-6, so he was kind of thin. So the biggest thing about him was, can he make a shot?
We wondered what kind of shooter he'd be."

Thorn could only go off of the tapes of Jordan he'd watched in Dean Smith's office in Chapel Hill several months before the draft.

"Back then, you didn't work guys out," he said. "We never worked Michael out. But I was very good friends with Dean, and every year, I'd go down to North Carolina for two or three days and he would let me watch tapes of all the ACC players.

That's how I scouted the entire league. Dean thought Michael would be a really good pro - a better pro player than a college player."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2009/04/04/2009-04-04_with_...

After the tape sessions, Thorn went back to Chicago thinking he would draft Jordan. But if Jordan was gone, his plan was to take another Tar Heel player, forward Sam Perkins. Before making it final, Thorn decided to attend the SEC Tournament to get a first-hand look at Auburn's Charles Barkley.

"Alabama threw a zone at Charles and he had six points, fouled out and played an awful game. He couldn't make an outside shot," Thorn said. "So I left there thinking, 'How is this guy ever going to be a big-time player in pro ball? He's just too small to do what he was doing in college in the NBA.'"

But it worked out just the way Thorn wanted. Olajuwon went first to Houston, Portland took Sam Bowie second and Jordan went to the Bulls.

"When training camp started, I was not there for our first practice," Thorn said. "After they finished, I got a call from Bill Blair, who was an assistant coach, and he said, 'Rod, you didn't screw this draft up. This guy is pretty good.' Well, you know how coaches are.

They just don't say that kind of stuff about a rookie. So I felt pretty good. Then the next day, I got a call from Kevin Loughery, our head coach, and he said, 'This guy is pretty good.' So I said, 'Wait a minute, he must be pretty dad-gone good if Kevin is calling me, too.'"

"Pretty dad-gone good" turned into much, much more, not so long after Thorn left Chicago in 1985. As Jordan grew into an iconic figure, known the world over, he took the league to unparalleled heights as the Bulls won six titles in eight seasons.

"We had the Bird and Magic era and they were wonderful to watch, with that great rivalry of theirs," Jackson said. "But Michael Jordan ..."

The former Bulls coach paused, looking for the right words to sum it all up. Finally, he smiled and said, "When Michael Jordan played the game, you couldn't take your eyes off him."
Lawrence: Thorn remembers floating on 'Air'

Nah,Jordan was good but at UNC Im sure people saw him as another good SG who would have a nice career,nobody ever thought he'd be what he is today,and proof is he couldn't shoot that well,dude just took it to another level in the NBA
 

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Jordan was also the National Player of the Year he came out...the primary reason he wasnt anointed was because ir was still seen as a big man game until he came along and changed that notion..Len Bias was a beast and his game looks lot it would not only translate, but soar to even higher heights as he extended his range and developed a handle..
exactly that's why Portland took Bowie:mjlol:

Sidenote AI was the first guard drafted at no 1 since Magic Johnson
 

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Nah,Jordan was good but at UNC Im sure people saw him as another good SG who would have a nice career,nobody ever thought he'd be what he is today,and proof is he couldn't shoot that well,dude just took it to another level in the NBA
Nah didn't shoot as much he was just athletic coming into the league that's why the league won't ready for another nikka just dunking from the free throwline:wow:
 
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Nah didn't shoot as much he was just athletic coming into the league that's why the league won't ready for another nikka just dunking from the free throwline:wow:

Exactly and they didn't think that would hold up because he was small,and he proved em wrong.

Point of the whole topic is was Len Bias gonna be as good as advertised some people say yes,some say no,all Im saying is Jordan wasn't advertised as being the next big time superstar and he went on to be the GOAT,Len Bias could have been good as hyped or fell through the cracks,we'll never know tho.
 

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:mjlol: Da fukk a lil highlight mean?

Jordan was never looked at as the next big thing while at UNC,wasn't until he got to the league and started tearing shyt up,people started anointing him:francis:

Yeah and no. Jordan always had the talent. Just that coach Dean Smith didn't run a star player system. Now the summer after he decided to go pro, he put
on a show. He was restricted that type of freedom at UNC
 
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