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I was watching this video on Travis Scott and saw this comment about rap music turning into rock...do you agree with it?
JaySTEEZ3 months ago (edited)
Yo! I'm so here for this. It's been so apparent for YEARS that rap is progressing in the same direction as rock and roll. The biggest shift is definitely the sound. New wave rap is all about the sonics and the melody, regardless of what is actually being spoken about. This reminds me of a while ago where I was binging rock music and dabbled with the question of which one I enjoyed more: rap, or rock and roll. And my choice was as you guessed rock and roll, my reasoning being the sound. The way that grunge and harsh instrumentation can be fused with melodies that tone them down and move so uptempo all at once is mesmerizing. I was listening to a lot of, and also with their song examples:
Black Sabbath (War Pigs/Luke's Wall, Planet Caravan, Symptom of the Universe), Pink Floyd (Echoes), Nirvana (Come As You Are), Iron Maiden which is my favorite band aside from MGMT (Rime of the Ancient Mariner), System of a Down (Aerials, which also one of the most sonically pleasing songa I have ever heard), and Led Zeppelin (Immigrant Song). The most recent time I thought about this a couple days ago and experienced my best example when I first listened to Dark Knight Dummo by Trippie Redd and Travis Scott. It is sonically the best rap song I have ever heard (shouts to Honorable C.N.O.T.E for producing one of the most mesmerizing beats of all time). And plenty old heads love to hate on the lyrical topics too, which is nothing we didn't see with the shift in rock and roll. I mean seriously, bash Young Thug for saying "I fukk on her face, I came fast like when Sonic came", but then forget about when KISS dropped Love Gun and said "I'll blast you with my love gun"?
Lol Cmon. These new artists and their predecessors like Thugger, Uzi, Travis, Trippie, Lil Wayne (who literally made a rock album almost 10 years ago), Cudi, OG Maco, Kanye, Future, etc. have so apparently been showing us this for years. Xxxtentacion is a prime example as well, obviously from his punk rager approach to Look at Me, I would recommend listening to his debut album 17 (like Joselyn Flores). And who hasn't heard at least 5 complaints from Future or even Migos haters about how "it always sounds the same, and he just has nice beats"?
It's so common. But as I said, it's all about the sonics and the melody, and the vibe. Odd Future, FBZ, and Travis Scott literally have mosh pits at their concerts, what could be more punk and metal than hundreds of white kids in dirty Vans punching each other in the face? Even the fashion is showing as well.
The embracing of male femininity like Young Thug and Lil Uzi wearing dresses or pom pom shoes, colorful dyed hair (Lil Uzi, Dex, Lil Peep--RIP, Rich the Kid, Tekashi69, etc.), skinny jeans and ripped jeans, acid wash clothes like the trend of custom Yeezus tour merch a few years ago, Kanye and A$AP Rocky bringing back the punk rock trend of plaid shirts tied around the waist, wearing boots year round (yet another trend set by Kanye with the several types of YEEZY boots, and even one that's as old as hip-hop: Timbs), writing all over your shoes (the trend A$AP Mob started about 4 years back of trashing your Timbs with a sharpie), leather pants, the whole sudden Vans and skater hype where every rapper like Famous Dex and Rich the Kid has on Vans Old Skools and a Bogo tee, etc.
Rich is actually a skater too, and obviously Odd Future and so forth, or even non-rappers who are just big in the game anyway like Virgil Abloh (Uzi damn near has an endorsement deal with Off-White too). It all makes total sense. Even with artists who are more underground or alternative like the Flatbush Zombies and Odd Future (both of which made music with Trash Talk). Speaking of Trash Talk, rock and roll did the same thing in the 90s and maybe before, with bands labeled as "experimental hip hop" like Rage Against the Machine, the rap/reggae punk band Bad Brains, or Death Grips. I mean, how is this NOT APPARENT? And lastly, to go along with the overly-sexualized lyrics (as I gave an example of) and most notably, the DRUG CULTURE. This new wave where everyone is making it cool to be on molly, xans, percs, lean, and the whole 9 is no different than the should-be-commonly-known "Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll" wave. If you don't see the connection, you either don't listen to rock music, or you're just an idiot who probably is a total hater for new artists.
^^Do you agree
I was watching this video on Travis Scott and saw this comment about rap music turning into rock...do you agree with it?
JaySTEEZ3 months ago (edited)
Yo! I'm so here for this. It's been so apparent for YEARS that rap is progressing in the same direction as rock and roll. The biggest shift is definitely the sound. New wave rap is all about the sonics and the melody, regardless of what is actually being spoken about. This reminds me of a while ago where I was binging rock music and dabbled with the question of which one I enjoyed more: rap, or rock and roll. And my choice was as you guessed rock and roll, my reasoning being the sound. The way that grunge and harsh instrumentation can be fused with melodies that tone them down and move so uptempo all at once is mesmerizing. I was listening to a lot of, and also with their song examples:
Black Sabbath (War Pigs/Luke's Wall, Planet Caravan, Symptom of the Universe), Pink Floyd (Echoes), Nirvana (Come As You Are), Iron Maiden which is my favorite band aside from MGMT (Rime of the Ancient Mariner), System of a Down (Aerials, which also one of the most sonically pleasing songa I have ever heard), and Led Zeppelin (Immigrant Song). The most recent time I thought about this a couple days ago and experienced my best example when I first listened to Dark Knight Dummo by Trippie Redd and Travis Scott. It is sonically the best rap song I have ever heard (shouts to Honorable C.N.O.T.E for producing one of the most mesmerizing beats of all time). And plenty old heads love to hate on the lyrical topics too, which is nothing we didn't see with the shift in rock and roll. I mean seriously, bash Young Thug for saying "I fukk on her face, I came fast like when Sonic came", but then forget about when KISS dropped Love Gun and said "I'll blast you with my love gun"?
Lol Cmon. These new artists and their predecessors like Thugger, Uzi, Travis, Trippie, Lil Wayne (who literally made a rock album almost 10 years ago), Cudi, OG Maco, Kanye, Future, etc. have so apparently been showing us this for years. Xxxtentacion is a prime example as well, obviously from his punk rager approach to Look at Me, I would recommend listening to his debut album 17 (like Joselyn Flores). And who hasn't heard at least 5 complaints from Future or even Migos haters about how "it always sounds the same, and he just has nice beats"?
It's so common. But as I said, it's all about the sonics and the melody, and the vibe. Odd Future, FBZ, and Travis Scott literally have mosh pits at their concerts, what could be more punk and metal than hundreds of white kids in dirty Vans punching each other in the face? Even the fashion is showing as well.
The embracing of male femininity like Young Thug and Lil Uzi wearing dresses or pom pom shoes, colorful dyed hair (Lil Uzi, Dex, Lil Peep--RIP, Rich the Kid, Tekashi69, etc.), skinny jeans and ripped jeans, acid wash clothes like the trend of custom Yeezus tour merch a few years ago, Kanye and A$AP Rocky bringing back the punk rock trend of plaid shirts tied around the waist, wearing boots year round (yet another trend set by Kanye with the several types of YEEZY boots, and even one that's as old as hip-hop: Timbs), writing all over your shoes (the trend A$AP Mob started about 4 years back of trashing your Timbs with a sharpie), leather pants, the whole sudden Vans and skater hype where every rapper like Famous Dex and Rich the Kid has on Vans Old Skools and a Bogo tee, etc.
Rich is actually a skater too, and obviously Odd Future and so forth, or even non-rappers who are just big in the game anyway like Virgil Abloh (Uzi damn near has an endorsement deal with Off-White too). It all makes total sense. Even with artists who are more underground or alternative like the Flatbush Zombies and Odd Future (both of which made music with Trash Talk). Speaking of Trash Talk, rock and roll did the same thing in the 90s and maybe before, with bands labeled as "experimental hip hop" like Rage Against the Machine, the rap/reggae punk band Bad Brains, or Death Grips. I mean, how is this NOT APPARENT? And lastly, to go along with the overly-sexualized lyrics (as I gave an example of) and most notably, the DRUG CULTURE. This new wave where everyone is making it cool to be on molly, xans, percs, lean, and the whole 9 is no different than the should-be-commonly-known "Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll" wave. If you don't see the connection, you either don't listen to rock music, or you're just an idiot who probably is a total hater for new artists.
^^Do you agree
