One of my favorite things to do lately is tell people how foolish and outlandish they sound when they try to convince me god is real.
Do you believe God is up there micromanaging everyone's lives?
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God is 1/2 HYON 1/2 
“yall some trifling ass mortals”
“yall some trifling ass mortals”
God, Providence, Fate all have one core principle in common:
that the actions by each person dictate their path.
Whether you believe in the Adam and Eve temptation story or Prometheus illuminating humans with the Fire of the gods.
The point is still the same:
Free will corrupts and ultimately leads everyone to their doom. This is the crux of being sentient.
It's my belief that prior to that hypothetical event, humans were ignorant like animals and simply existed completely unaware of how things worked around them.
Once you figure out that the environment can be manipulated, it could be argued that us destroying the world became an eventuality
that the actions by each person dictate their path.
Whether you believe in the Adam and Eve temptation story or Prometheus illuminating humans with the Fire of the gods.
The point is still the same:
Free will corrupts and ultimately leads everyone to their doom. This is the crux of being sentient.
It's my belief that prior to that hypothetical event, humans were ignorant like animals and simply existed completely unaware of how things worked around them.
Once you figure out that the environment can be manipulated, it could be argued that us destroying the world became an eventuality
God's a big dikk if he's that picky.
And even if you're that lenient you have to admit he is.
And even if you're that lenient you have to admit he is.
well lets address your example. lets say God does care down to the small little details about everyone's life.
When Chuck quits his job, that he should not have quit, it causes a ripple effect within his own family and outside of his family and friends with people he doesnt even know. Maybe Chuck was a christian and he was supposed to spread the gospel to one of his co-workers or a customer that was going to come in the friday after the day he quit. lets say that person was going to receive the gospel and also choose to become a believer. and that person has a big family he was going to spread that gospel too including his children. now you have multiple generations of people that would have the gospel/truth. But chuck quit for various reasons but he never asked God what he should do or when he did ask God didnt give him the answer he wanted which was "you should quit." so he decided to take matters into his own hands. This is just an example of how that scenario could play out.
One person can touch a million people just by touching and changing ones mind. Just one.
Yes
you're on to something but you're missing a key point.God, Providence, Fate all have one core principle in common:
that the actions by each person dictate their path.
Whether you believe in the Adam and Eve temptation story or Prometheus illuminating humans with the Fire of the gods.
The point is still the same:
Free will corrupts and ultimately leads everyone to their doom. This is the crux of being sentient.
It's my belief that prior to that hypothetical event, humans were ignorant like animals and simply existed completely unaware of how things worked around them.
Once you figure out that the environment can be manipulated, it could be argued that us destroying the world became an eventuality
Lets take it back to the days in the garden, pre granny smith apple gate.
Adam and eve were naming animals. Running around figuring out the world that the good Lord built for them. I believe, that this kind of scientific inquiry and categorizing things is what we were designed to do. in essence, God built us, and built a place for us called earth and the heavens(space). and he did it not just so we could live here. but also for us to explore and figure out the wonders he's created. because the euphoric feeling we have when we have discovered something for the first time has to feel some type of Good to the person/being who created it for us.
imagine you make a paper airplane for your son. then imagine him getting old enough to figure out how you created it and now he can duplicate it. imagine that feeling of a proud father you would have. so multiple that feeling times billions for God. Now your son is older. imagine if you build a video game on a computer. and your daughter figures out how you pieced the entire gaming world together and how things work. The journey of your daughter trying to figure things out, asking you some questions, other times trying to figure it out for herself and finally getting it. imagine that feeling. Now multiple that times billions/zillions because we're talking about throughout mankind's history and future.
I believe we were designed to all be explorers and scientists. i think we were supposed to figure out how to manipulate things.
And that it would not have had the same consequences pre apple issue as it does now. because we do these things in some respect for our own selfish motives even when we think we are doing it for others. we still a lot of times do things for our own desire to feel loved by others who like what we did.
per the bible, the eating of that apple was one thing but the lying about it and the some what infighting between adam and eve not owning up to their parts. adam saying more or less "well...she gave it to me." like he wasnt the one told not to eat it. he gave up his manhood privileges right there. she gave up her equal privileges by not being a proper helpmeet that should've told that talking serpent No thanks. or at worse 'let me ask my husband adam what he thinks about this first. and then adam if he wasnt sure about it. should've spoke to god about it and asked, "is this that tree you said we shouldnt eat from?"
once those mistakes were made and the lack of an early on repenting spirit, it broke the world as we know it. it went from perfect to broken right along with adam and eve and all of their offspring thereafter.
thats why the real answer to all of the worlds ills is a simple one. The entire planet including all of us in it are broken.
when you sit back and hear about a child being kidnapped and killed by her father. or some fool burning his baby mama live, or some other fools shooting up an elementary school full of kids. and you say "How does god let this happen?"
the answer is, he didnt. our greatest of grandfathers and grandmothers allowed it by partaking of that fruit. and then not being quit to own up and apologizing.
That book says adam could speak to the animals and command them. i think this is something that most of us has lost due to the worl being broken. we have no idea what the earth was like before he became a broken version of itself. we dont know what type of power we had over the earth, the animals, its elements, etc.
Kenny West
Veteran
Aware yes
Managing no. Humanity has been left to their own devices since the final convenant
Managing no. Humanity has been left to their own devices since the final convenant
bourgeoisie tall freak
Superstar
"if there is a god why does ____ happen"
i dont recall the bible every saying god is supposed to answer everyone's requests...he didn't even stop jesus from dying. seems like people are focusing more so on human desires than the purpose of faith.
i dont recall the bible every saying god is supposed to answer everyone's requests...he didn't even stop jesus from dying. seems like people are focusing more so on human desires than the purpose of faith.
God Almighty
Your Lord
Your reality is just my game of The Sims.
God Almighty
Your Lord
Don't worry about that. Nothing to see there. Move along.
God Almighty
Your Lord
Oh. About that.
It was supposed to be Free Wifi.
I read the instructions wrong.
But hey, free will's not a bad trade off, right? You can jump into traffic, you can slice your veins open, you can do whatever you want. It's great, isn't it?
God Almighty
Your Lord
Right now my ideal solution for everything is invincible strains of deadly fungus. Your planet used to be covered in fungus, you know. I kind of liked it that way.