Do you believe race is a social construct?

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I'm Somali first. That Black shyt is used by cacs to divide and conquer. My fellow brothers don't see it.
 

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Anytime I hear a black person say race is a social construct I think they are c00ns


In my sociology class my professor argued this by saying different races can have the same blood type. He aslo said the chinese classified themselves on hair color in the past

I argued to him back that race goes by phenotype and genotype and that human beings will always try to divide themselves because of tribalism but at its basic form there are only 3 pure races . Skin tone and hair texture combined make them with certain features not just one or the other or by itself
Remember, geography, until very recently isolated a lot of ethnic groups, so people have this notion that precludes them from accepting we're all the same.

And theres not "3 races"...thats some 19th century bullshyt.

And frankly, you're limited to what your government says. Because in the USA, more and more immigrant groups get classified as "white" despite having vastly different ethnic and linguistic backgrounds.
 

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My argument

There are certain characteristics that only the 3 pure races have that are specific to them as a group

For Causacoid White or tanned complexion coupled with blue,light eyes and narrow noses and fine/curly hair this would be the majority

Negroid nappy hair broad nose , brown to dark skin complexion with brown eyes

Mongloid Asian Yellow pigment, Very fine dark hair slanted eyes

Now white people may have categorized certain non white races to be black to benefit them somehow but it is very real and not a construct.
You're just saying that based on the 3 biggest obvious declinations, thats all exists.

Its wrong, and its myopic.

Listen to your professor. You don't get to just challenge it because you think you're right about everything. You're there to learn first and foremost.

You don't even know what you don't know, so get the basics first.
 

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I'm Somali first. That Black shyt is used by cacs to divide and conquer. My fellow brothers don't see it.

If anything labeling yourself black would unify people who are of the same phenotype and not cause division.

I would think most Africans wouldnt call themselves black first because its a given that they are all black and does not need to be pointed out therefore they go by tribes.

It is only in non black countries where it needs to be stated that we are black because everyone is so different.
 
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My argument

There are certain characteristics that only the 3 pure races have that are specific to them as a group

For Causacoid White or tanned complexion coupled with blue,light eyes and narrow noses and fine/curly hair this would be the majority

Negroid nappy hair broad nose , brown to dark skin complexion with brown eyes

Mongloid Asian Yellow pigment, Very fine dark hair slanted eyes

Now white people may have categorized certain non white races to be black to benefit them somehow but it is very real and not a construct.
Someone's looks doesn't correlate 100% with their genes though. If you get 2 random people of white race and compare them to a black or Asian there's only a 65% that the 2 white people have the more similar DNA. It means the grouping aren't really worth that much.

As I said 85% of human diversity is in Africa, but Africans they're all put under 1 race? This is because back in the day they grouped races on only 1 of their phenotype - skin colour.

There is no clearly defined lines of where 1 race starts or ends.

Grouping people by skin colour, is like having a car lot and grouping the cars by their paint job colour. It doesn't provide much information on what the car is like underneath.
 

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Someone's looks doesn't correlate 100% with their genes though. If you get 2 random people of white race and compare them to a black or Asian there's only a 65% that the 2 white people have the more similar DNA. It means the grouping aren't really worth that much.

As I said 85% of human diversity is in Africa, but Africans they're all put under 1 race? This is because back in the day they grouped races on only 1 of their phenotype - skin colour.

There is no clearly defined lines of where 1 race starts or ends.

Grouping people by skin colour, is like having a car lot and grouping the cars by their paint job colour.

It is not grouping by skin color alone

It is grouping people by hair texture , skin color and facial features all together . Phenotype not the genotype is what we see on the outside our appearance , you are what you look like .

You take 2 random people from the three races even a child could see the difference.
 

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Races exist, it will always be a battle to make your race #1. No twisting or turning of the facts will stop cacs from trying their hardest to dominate.

So if you tell em "Hey Walter, race is just made up, man :heh:", he'll think you're a clown while trying to maintain white supremacy.

So OP is right, saying this lame SJW bs is c00nery. It's some "Maybe we can manipulate cacs to have mercy on us" :rudy:

Weak, but do yall. The wake up call comes when cacs laugh at it, then go support trump.
 
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My argument

There are certain characteristics that only the 3 pure races have that are specific to them as a group

For Causacoid White or tanned complexion coupled with blue,light eyes and narrow noses and fine/curly hair this would be the majority

Negroid nappy hair broad nose , brown to dark skin complexion with brown eyes

Mongloid Asian Yellow pigment, Very fine dark hair slanted eyes

Now white people may have categorized certain non white races to be black to benefit them somehow but it is very real and not a construct.

Like has been pointed out by others earlier: your argument is wrong. Can you show your data to support the argument that the majority of the "3 pure races" have the characteristics you listed? How would you categorise those that you've implied aren't in the majority, or part of the "pure"?
 

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You're just saying that based on the 3 biggest obvious declinations, thats all exists.

Its wrong, and its myopic.

Listen to your professor. You don't get to just challenge it because you think you're right about everything. You're there to learn first and foremost.

You don't even know what you don't know, so get the basics first.

Race as a social contruct is not a fact he even likes us to challenge his opinions for debates this is not a echo chamber like math
 

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Race as a social contruct is not a fact he even likes us to challenge his opinions for debates this is not a echo chamber like math
Well its damn sure not "science" because you can't back up anything you're saying.

Stop clinging to rigid definitions.
 

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It is not grouping by skin color alone

It is grouping people by hair texture , skin color and facial features all together . Phenotype not the genotype is what we see on the outside our appearance , you are what you look like .

You take 2 random people from the three races even a child could see the difference.
It's started with skin colour grouping, but regardless there isn't a strong enough correlation between phenotype and genotype for it to be of any use.

Answer me this.? What tribe phenotype or nationality would you consider pure negroid, and pure Asian? Bantu, Khoisan, west African, Kenyan - it's purely subjective.
 

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Maybe the out of Africa theory is incorrect?

this is what I'm wondering lately myself. something is really off with the caucasian race. how did they just randomly appear in the caves only 6000-10,000 years ago, yet today still have traceable amounts of neanderthal dna that went extinct 40,000 years ago. what am i missing? :dwillhuh:
 
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