Do you believe race is a social construct?

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Then your norm characteristics might just not be that useful for racial categorisation, no?

In some rare cases, two Black parents have been known to have had a child that hasn't shared their phenotype. Is that child a different race due to having characteristics that aren't part of your list of "pure" racial characteristics?



What race is a mixed child?

Mixed is a race classification, its a person born from two different races or people who look racially ambiguous

Two black parents having a kid who does not fit the standard does not change the characteristics of what a certain race mostly looks like . Anomalies should not be used as an indicator of race, they are outliers and will never be the majority . Nothing more than a hiccup that will be corrected once they have kids with another person of the same race as them.
 

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Well those people are idiots :snoop:

I mean obviously race is a biological and social construct....

But we got people outright saying it isn't real...and we been deluded...and I am like no...tell that to people that need bone marrow transplants...
 

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Yes. Human biological differences can be attributed primarily to environments of our ancestors.

Arbitrary appearance categories were created by Europeans and negatively codified to justify the exploitation of others for the resources of their land.
In short, race is a social construct but the systems created to support the false construct are very, VERY real.
 

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Yes. Human biological differences can be attributed primarily to environments of our ancestors.

Arbitrary appearance categories were created by Europeans and negatively codified to justify the exploitation of others for the resources of their land.
In short, race is a social construct but the systems created to support the false construct are very, VERY real.

Exactly...the problem is people use biological differences to exploit people...
 

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Yes. Human biological differences can be attributed primarily to environments of our ancestors.

Arbitrary appearance categories were created by Europeans and negatively codified to justify the exploitation of others for the resources of their land.
In short, race is a social construct but the systems created to support the false construct are very, VERY real.

So you believe the reason some people have dark skin and nappy hair is because of their environment ? With this type of thinking after a 1000 yrs have gone by white people should no longer have their pale white or tan complexion living in South Africa of the former Rhodesia and now Zimbabwe right?
 

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It is a social construct. None of y'all can agree on what "black" is.

Not in America because people follow the one drop rule but in Africa they can .

People get in their feels when black people who are dark skin with nappy hair say so and so is not black in America . I think they get more backlash then the people who dont want to identify as black.
 
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Mixed is a race classification, its a person born from two different races or people who look racially ambiguous

Are you saying "mixed" is just one racial classification? Or do different mixtures of the "3 pure races" give rise to different races?

Two black parents having a kid who does not fit the standard does not change the characteristics of what a certain race mostly looks like .

No, but they change the list of characteristics you'd use to identify that group. At least, that's how it'd work if you weren't practising pseudoscience.

Anomalies should not be used as an indicator of race, they are outliers and will never be the majority . Nothing more than a hiccup that will be corrected once they have kids with another person of the same race as them.

What if said "anomaly" has a child with another similar anomaly? And their offspring all do the same? Do they get their own racial category that's independent of the original group?

Not in America because people follow the one drop rule but in Africa they can .

People get in their feels when black people who are dark skin with nappy hair say so and so is not black in America . I think they get more backlash then the people who dont want to identify as black.

Sounds like a social construct to me. Also, no, there are arguments in Africa about racial groupings, too. It can depend on the question being asked, and to whom the question is asked. Black isn't a race if it can be worn by anyone with a non-Black parent, surely.
 

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Well those people are idiots :snoop:

I am going to play devil advocate with you? Because you are a very intelligent person, and i like you as a poster.

Do you go by the old anthropology terms in regards to race, or you view race more a less socially. Since you are African like myself you being from the west and i being from the North East? Do you guys view us as a different race from you since according to the OP any any person who does subscribe to the anthropological characteristic of his idea of race are not the same race.

Example of this.

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Your people

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Do you think we are the same race as you or different race? I know it is controversial but whatever?
 

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So you believe the reason some people have dark skin and nappy hair is because of their environment ? With this type of thinking after a 1000 yrs have gone by white people should no longer have their pale white or tan complexion living in South Africa of the former Rhodesia and now Zimbabwe right?
Yeah. Climate and environment is the determining factor in most outward phenotypical differences if I'm recalling correctly.
Our hair curls and coils tightly because it keeps our heads cool, while straight hair draws heat. Hell I can verify this with my own hair. If I straighten my hair in the summer, it's a MUCH hotter hairstyle than wearing my hair naturally with a wash and go when it dries curly.

Apparently it took hundreds of thousands of years (I think) for these changes to become standardized.
Cool fact, apparently researchers link the brightness of sun to Asiatic eye shape...an evolutionary habit passed down from them squinting at the brightness of the sun. Some Africans share Asiatic eye features for the same reasons.
Lol!

Keep in mind all of this is conjecture tho. Where do you think phenotypical differences come from?
 

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I am going to play devil advocate with you? Because you are a very intelligent person, and i like you as a poster.

Do you go by the old anthropology terms in regards to race, or you view race more a less socially. Since you are African like myself you being from the west and i being from the North East? Do you guys view us as a different race from you since according to the OP any any person who does subscribe to the anthropological characteristic of his idea of race are not the same race.

Example of this.

My people
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sudanese-people03.jpg


131253522_54f48538b6.jpg

Your people

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POLITICS2B1.jpg


Do you think we are the same race as you or different race? I know it is controversial but whatever?

Pygmies are the original people of West Africa. Many West African groups originated in central and South Africa and didn't get to the West until later on. Aren't most East Africans in particular Somali and Ethiopians mixed with "non African" dna?
 

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Yeah. Climate and environment is the determining factor in most outward phenotypical differences if I'm recalling correctly.
Our hair curls and coils tightly because it keeps our heads cool, while straight hair draws heat. Hell I can verify this with my own hair. If I straighten my hair in the summer, it's a MUCH hotter hairstyle than wearing my hair naturally with a wash and go when it dries curly.

Apparently it took hundreds of thousands of years (I think) for these changes to become standardized.
Cool fact, apparently researchers link the brightness of sun to Asiatic eye shape...an evolutionary habit passed down from them squinting at the brightness of the sun. Some Africans share Asiatic eye features for the same reasons.
Lol!

Keep in mind all of this is conjecture tho. Where do you think phenotypical differences come from?

Time will tell if current day scientist are right because there have been plenty of white people living in Africa for well over a hundred years and they still don't have darker skin or coily hair. So this debate will for sure have an answer eventually that will not be questionable if environment really does play a role in our appearance .
 
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