Do you believe race is a social construct?

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Time will tell if current day scientist are right because there have been plenty of white people living in Africa for well over a hundred years and they still don't have darker skin or coily hair. So this debate will for sure have an answer eventually that will not be questionable .

It's interesting to speculate. I like hearing multiple theories including spiritual ones as well.

 

[Misreeya]

Pygmies are the original people of West Africa. Many West African groups originated in central and South Africa and didn't get to the West until later on. Aren't most East Africans in particular Somali and Ethiopians mixed with "non African" dna?

Interesting i did not know that for west Africans. I am not sure about Somalis or Ethiopia, but i posted my own people "North Sudanese". A couple of my friends did take the DNA test, and i was pretty shock of their reading since they were very "fair skin" Sudanese standards. One of the got reading that was 89% North and East African which i was pretty shock despite people believing their ancestry being elsewhere. However J1 is prominent in the North, whether it is ancient or recent is anyone guest, but i think it is ancient nonetheless.

 

[Menelik II]

Not in America because people follow the one drop rule but in Africa they can .

People get in their feels when black people who are dark skin with nappy hair say so and so is not black in America . I think they get more backlash then the people who dont want to identify as black.

So please enlighten us what "pure negroid" is? Or you have you own suggestion.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Interesting i did not know that for west Africans. I am not sure about Somalis or Ethiopia, but i posted my own people "North Sudanese". A couple of my friends did take the DNA test, and i was pretty shock of their reading since they were very "fair skin" Sudanese standards. One of the got reading that was 89% North and East African which i was pretty stock despite people believing their ancestry being elsewhere.

I mean every West African tribe and group is different but for my tribe at least West Africa was the final stop according to our oral history which also aligns with my DNA results.

 

[Black Panther]

There is only one race that matters, and that is the human one.

Classifying people by skin color is definitely a social construct. I absolutely love being black and black culture, but a person lighter or darker than me is neither above or beneath me.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

So please enlighten us what "pure negroid" is? Or you have you own suggestion.

LAWD...type of dude to make u risk it all! He's gorgeous. His voice alone can probably get a chick pregnant.

I'll herd cattle forever for this dude.
Where is my Wakanda?

Looks like some type of blk Elven king or something.

 

[BigMan]

Not in America because people follow the one drop rule but in Africa they can .

People get in their feels when black people who are dark skin with nappy hair say so and so is not black in America . I think they get more backlash then the people who dont want to identify as black.

nah I can post pics of people and we will have a 20 page argument. If race is something concrete we should be able to give concrete definitions on what each race is

We cant, because race is a social construct that differs in different societies/nations

 

[AlainLocke]

So you believe the reason some people have dark skin and nappy hair is because of their environment ? With this type of thinking after a 1000 yrs have gone by white people should no longer have their pale white or tan complexion living in South Africa of the former Rhodesia and now Zimbabwe right?

Evolution takes millions of years...it's not thousands....

 

[Bea__13]

Are you saying "mixed" is just one racial classification? Or do different mixtures of the "3 pure races" give rise to different races?



No, but they change the list of characteristics you'd use to identify that group. At least, that's how it'd work if you weren't practising pseudoscience.



What if said "anomaly" has a child with another similar anomaly? And their offspring all do the same? Do they get their own racial category that's independent of the original group?



Sounds like a social construct to me. Also, no, there are arguments in Africa about racial groupings, too. It can depend on the question being asked, and to whom the question is asked. Black isn't a race if it can be worn by anyone with a non-Black parent, surely.

Mixed can be used as one classification I think whether it be an asian and black couple or asian and white . They are both mixed , to break it down by what they are mixed with I think just causes unneeded confusion . Not to sound derogatory to mixed people but we call all dogs who are not pure bred mutts regardless of who they mated with.

I not sure about your third question it is very unlikely and have to think about that because their genes are recessive so if they ever got with someone who was the standard of their race their kids would look normal most likely

 

[MalikX]

It is. We all descended from the great ape. Split into gorillas, pygmy chimps, common chimps and the human ancestor. From there, we populated East Africa. Then a group splintered off into the Middle East. Then from there a third group splintered off and went into Asia, the Pacific Islands and then a fourth group splintered off and went into Siberia, then across the Bering Strait into Canada, Alaska, North America and South America. And then back over in the Middle East, a fifth group splintered off and went into Europe and Scandinavia. Once we all became isolated from one another for thousands of years, our skin color and phenotype mutated based on sunlight, environment and diet. That's race There's always been tribal skirmishes but, race was something white people conceptualized to place themselves on top of the totem pole.

 

[mrfortune]

watch gangs of new york. this was before "White" people existed

 

[Bea__13]

nah I can post pics of people and we will have a 20 page argument. If race is something concrete we should be able to give concrete definitions on what each race is

We cant, because race is a social construct that differs in different societies/nations

Ok heres an example

Lets say you get every dark skin/brown nappy hair black person in America to say that light skin(Drake ,Chris Brown) high yellow people are not black there would be huge backlash and fights because of the history of the one drop rule

The only part of race being a social contruct comes from is some people wanting black to be light skin when it is not . Like someone trying to force a group of people onto your race when they never were apart of you anyway.

If people want to say race being a social construct is forcing people to align with groups who they don't belong to is real I agree with that aka the One Drop Rule .

However we naturally all ready belong to the group who we most look a like and share the same features. Regardless of how a certain group in power wants to treat us or all non whites

 

[Menelik II]

LAWD...type of dude to make u risk it all! He's gorgeous. His voice alone can probably get a chick pregnant.

I'll herd cattle forever for this dude.
Where is my Wakanda?

Looks like some type of blk Elven king or something.

I got couple goats for you

 

[USSInsiders]

Basically yes it is

By thinking about things solely in race terms you are perpetuating the pseudoscience of 'race realism'

Depends what you mean by "race realism." Some call it the reality of certain scientific traits being more common in certain ethnic groups, which is true. East Africans tend to be better long distance runners, West Africans tend to be better sprinters, Ashkenazi Jews tend to have the highest IQs.

Of course we're all individuals and we all have differences, but humanity is way too diverse to call it in terms of black, white, asian, hispanic. It's just far too diverse and part of why we have so many issues because we are oversimplifying a super-vast and super-diverse population.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Oh brother