Do you get what the oldheads were saying back when

[Buckeye Fever]

Afrobeats sucks.​

 

[Complexion]

Man the music just trash now. Accept it..

For real though I usually have the slow grooves on. Mostly rock the Isleys... The trend seems the same across the deck tho because folks streaming are also playing "real music". Dont get it twisted, I'm not saying there isn't good music out there because there is. Just not commercially and even then you've got to go digging to find it.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/yall-fukk-with-this-type-of-music.796930/

 

[Wildhundreds]

For real though I usually have the slow grooves on. Mostly rock the Isleys... The trend seems the same across the deck tho because folks streaming are also playing "real music". Dont get it twisted, I'm not saying there isn't good music out there because there is. Just not commercially and even then you've got to go digging to find it.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/yall-fukk-with-this-type-of-music.796930/

100% agree.

But in the 90s the good stuff was all over the place. Couldn't avoid it.

 

[Complexion]

100% agree.

But in the 90s the good stuff was all over the place. Couldn't avoid it.

Aint that the truth. There were styles upon styles and lanes upon lanes. Everybody ate. Not that it was all good because there was some dross in there but in general the standards were so high and the tastes discerning.

The hype of anticipation for a drop, letting it spin after you ripped the plastic and read the credits from end to end >>>>>>>> streaming. It was a whole experience and you could tell because the barriers to entry was higher and everyone did it for the respect and to get a rep:






The game has changed in that flex and we had that raw uncut product in comparison to whats been stepped on. Thats why it doesn't hit like it did. Remember PSK? Gangsta Gangsta! I never thought hip hop would fall so far...

This is why I think the AI renaissance is gonna be so huge as we vibe to new old tunes created by digital imitation... Ya hate to see it.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

not even close to being true from a realistic sense


100 years ago music changed completely

80 years it became commercial and marketed .... but the artists still had the talent to actually play and do it

60 years ago you had a combo of both at its peak really

40 years ago technology and more money watered it down even further where you can just take untalented people, and make them acceptable

20 years ago people stopped caring and the generation grew past giving a fukk really... (same with how AI can just do a song in a style now)


its easy to say from 1970 that music sucked in the 90s when its just a remix of what you already actually heard and played with talent
then, you still had an artform and collage of sounds and skill to piece together songs... now, for maximum profit... people just make music over computer drums 80% of the time with no actual backing instrumentation.... who the fukk wants to listen to just drums or remix's of remix's?

its good for money and marketing, its fun... but its not doing shyt really in a musical sense. nikkas aint really sitting there learning instruments and writing songs from the ground up and competing. There's nothing really creative or personal when you are just putting 2 people's ideas on top of eachother from decades ago. There's nothing wrong if you are doing it in a skilled way... but doing every song that way is nuts



REALISTICALLY its the record labels making the low IQ artists take the fall
they are sampling their own masters from the label to make double the money

they charge the artist to sample an old song, but they own the new artist and the old song too. So in turn they are paying themselves and charging yall twice.

I agree with this assessment, but I'd argue that the bolded is a gross mischaracterization. The 80's combined established artists with new technology and created some of the greatest music ever made.....

Spoiler: So page loads faster

But, I'm , so pay me no mind.​

 

[Complexion]

I said the same about 80s jams:

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/80s-jams-got-them-80s-jams.790011/

Took the best talent of the 70s and blended it so well with modern tech to create classics. So much heat tucked away in that timestream and in that sense the net can be an immense gift as well.

Even the B teams were leagues ahead of what came next.

 

[The Connoisseurs]

What should happen to all Afrobeats records....

We’d probably have to place your old bones by the fireplace if you tried to get jiggy to it anyways

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

We’d probably have to place your old bones by the fireplace if you tried to get jiggy to it anyways

Y'all dance like you're having seizures on ice so I'd fit right in.

** Does 'The Running Man' outta thread**​

 

[HarlemHottie]

REALISTICALLY its the record labels making the low IQ artists take the fall
they are sampling their own masters from the label to make double the money

they charge the artist to sample an old song, but they own the new artist and the old song too. So in turn they are paying themselves and charging yall twice.

Super deep. @Booksnrain

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I saw Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam at the Apollo in 1st or 2nd grade. I remember bc I went to ps 144 at the time (google it). Anyway, Cult Jam came out on the stage in rhinestone g strings. My mom and big bro swiftly covered my eyes, but I did tell the tale in 1st grade the next day. My teacher, a stern older bw from the days when we were all one foot out the south, was mildly amused, very mildly.


As an adult, my bro worked at a place in the city that hosted many famous ppl. Lisa shot her shot and he was married to a beautiful ds bajan sista, but he reminisced on being a youngin at that concert.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Super deep. @Booksnrain



I saw Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam at the Apollo in 1st or 2nd grade. I remember bc I went to ps 144 at the time (google it). Anyway, Cult Jam came out on the stage in rhinestone g strings. My mom and big bro swiftly covered my eyes, but I did tell the tale in 1st grade the next day. My teacher, a stern older bw from the days when we were all one foot out the south, was mildly amused, very mildly.


As an adult, my bro worked at a place in the city that hosted many famous ppl. Lisa shot her shot and he was married to a beautiful ds bajan sista, but he reminisced on being a youngin at that concert.

You sure it was Cult Jam and not Full Force?

'Cause FF was WELL-KNOWN for doing that type of thing onstage.​

 

[Greenhornet]

I agree with this assessment, but I'd argue that the bolded is a gross mischaracterization. The 80's combined established artists with new technology and created some of the greatest music ever made.....

Spoiler: So page loads faster

But, I'm , so pay me no mind.​

might as well reply

I agree with the 80s and the talent with the combo of technology with talent

but what I meant was it was the beginning of the end really

you can never blame something so amazing for being the downfall... but it usually is (in my opinion)
you can go back to all the guitar pedals and gear musicians used from the 60s onward... it did meld extremely talented grassroots performers to new and exciting sounds and equipment...

but what amazing shyt inspires... it also destroys. you end up with the next generation of lackluster artists just mimicking that one great thing and adopting it in a watered down fashion.

Its not the time period or the artists fault... but it does contribute to extreme amounts of terrible repercussions (to me in my opinion im just ranting and raving here)

where you can give the Beatles credit for doing actual music videos and all this shyt... it did alot of amazing moments that eventually created MTV and all that shyt... youtube etc
but it hurt millions or billions more with garbage that strayed from artistry. I know I'm playing devil's advocate on purpose here... but you really dont have the 80s without the 60s mixed with the 70s

its hard to hide tricks and techniques that become so mainstream and successful...you can find 5 year olds that can play Mozart or Jimi Hendrix. But actually inventing and creating a lane and just replaying it is so different. Realistically, anytime you talk about anything mainstream on a label level... you are just looking at all these people selling out and maximizing profit. People (or fans) arent worried about being great or doing something new. If you can just dial in Jimi Hendrix's tone on guitar and play similarly ... people just assume you're amazing and give you money. Artists every year cry about record deals, when they are the desperate ones who sign them in the first place... if they really loved making music, they would just do it.

Music really isnt demonic, its just a reflection of the most desperate people selling out and speaking about why and what they want to sell out for. Those same people in turn, complain about the same things they signed the dotted line about.


Sure you may have had alot of classics and well processed jams in the 80s... but its no different than today (minus the budget cuts) Even dudes like Michael Bolton were talented and killing in the late 80s. You arent gonna get that type of passion for music anymore because they can get paid more without even caring now. 90s was only really saved because of hiphop and the shift in culture. Things that were edgy and taboo in the 90s are copied today and are normal things. Ive never even really heard a rapper from the past 10 years say "I am the greatest and most skilled of all time" these cats dont really care. Or guitarists etc. We end up with shyt like real housewives and basketball diaries, people that dont matter fighting... instead of the actual talent in the forefront.

 

[Complexion]

There is a feedback loop with tunes though. They are both inspired and inspiring and thus very powerful. As I mature I see what was meant about rap as as weapon because it may not have seemed that way back when in hindsight its obvious.

Or maybe...



You can check the output from the 70s onwards and its generally been downhill in increments with occasional blips that uplift and set a new standard. The digital model of quick flip, zero investment. 1080 contracts doesn't help and neither does the consumer caring more about the image and F-ery than actual talent but that is the game at this moment.

They say popular trends represent the hearts and souls of the masses via what they express. Speaks volumes on the current generations inner realms as it must have about ours back when because the wounded womb hurts the seeds its births and everyone is getting number and number as the world turns.

How did the entire game switch it up to hardcore ways in 9-3 if that wasn't already present within and awaiting expression. Now that niche just went global as the rest caught up to where we were as we've matured past it. Makes you think, yes?