Do you know anybody outside the bay who actually listens to Wack ass E40 in real life

[FruitOfTheVale]

Over twenty-five years ago.



Yes once upon a time I don't doubt he was independent. But all that independent talk in his raps and mostly from fans is bullshyt. All the songs that everyone remembers him for and just about everyone who's heard of him is from an era where he was signed to a major label. All the new fans he gained during the hyphy movement came from a smash hit record that was cosigned by Lil John (who was super hot at the time) and had major label promotion and marketing.

It was the number 1 record on 106 and Park and MTV. His second single "U and Dat" was another smash hit record which featured T-Pain, who was the hottest artist at the time. Sway did a mini-documentary on the bay around that time. All eyes were on the SFBA and E-40 capitalized off of it like a major widely recognized artist should. No doubt My Ghetto Report Card had a much larger advance than his other albums.

This logic that E-40 is somehow an independent underground rapper who has mainstream appeal by word of mouth is fabrication. E-40 is a mainstream rapper who happens to be from the bay, that never made music who's quality matched the Jay-Z's, Tupac's, Nas', Nelly's, and whoever else of his era. So he relegated to a somewhat regional and underground presence by default. It's like saying Nelly is independent now because only Saint Louis is listening to him at this point, or that Slim Thug is independent; no, you just fell off.

E-40 never fell off like Slim Thug or the rest of the "whoever elses" of his era though. He's had an incredibly consistent following the entire time he's been around and its actually grown the longer he's been rapping. "Tell Me When To Go" was his biggest single but he's had and been featured on a whole catalog of big singles since then.

His career never reached Jay-Z or Nas's level because he was never as accessible as either of them. He has a unique style and he's unapologetic about it (and his fans love him for it), the end. Even more than that, unlike the Slim Thugs of the rap game he actually has substance underneath his aesthetic and that's what his fans are still coming back for 30 years later. His last few triple discs have been more mindless than the rest of his music catalog and if anything that's the only error he's made in this stage of his career. He brought the substance back on his last EP, hopefully he continues to do so on his future albums.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

I think Bay artists toured in the South and made connections with artists out there. I'm saying that didn't translate to Bay heads listening to certain Southern artists. Obviously everyone listened to Scarface, GB and Kast.

This is all just my experience though.

nah

mean green..broke all of bay records in texas when kmel wasnt showin none of em love..

alot of bay artist had distribution with southwest whole sale in houston

we got alot of bay shyt be4 the bay got it...

alot of those cats fukked with screw..screw broke their records too

pen n pixel also did alot of bay shyt..which is also in houston..

them nikkas didnt tour..like that...but they had to come thru texas to get their product

 

[360dagod]

40 be ripping shyt

 

[mobbinfms]

nah

mean green..broke all of bay records in texas when kmel wasnt showin none of em love..

alot of bay artist had distribution with southwest whole sale in houston

we got alot of bay shyt be4 the bay got it...

alot of those cats fukked with screw..screw broke their records too

pen n pixel also did alot of bay shyt..which is also in houston..

them nikkas didnt tour..like that...but they had to come thru texas to get their product

I'll defer to you on what was going on in TX. I have no idea. My point was that fans in the Bay weren't bumping all the artists I listed earlier.

 

[mobbinfms]

Over twenty-five years ago.

So in 1990? Receipts?

 

[Xtraz2]

Over twenty-five years ago.



Yes once upon a time I don't doubt he was independent. But all that independent talk in his raps and mostly from fans is bullshyt. All the songs that everyone remembers him for and just about everyone who's heard of him is from an era where he was signed to a major label. All the new fans he gained during the hyphy movement came from a smash hit record that was cosigned by Lil John (who was super hot at the time) and had major label promotion and marketing.

It was the number 1 record on 106 and Park and MTV. His second single "U and Dat" was another smash hit record which featured T-Pain, who was the hottest artist at the time. Sway did a mini-documentary on the bay around that time. All eyes were on the SFBA and E-40 capitalized off of it like a major widely recognized artist should. No doubt My Ghetto Report Card had a much larger advance than his other albums.

This logic that E-40 is somehow an independent underground rapper who has mainstream appeal by word of mouth is fabrication. E-40 is a mainstream rapper who happens to be from the bay, that never made music who's quality matched the Jay-Z's, Tupac's, Nas', Nelly's, and whoever else of his era. So he relegated to a somewhat regional and underground presence by default. It's like saying Nelly is independent now because only Saint Louis is listening to him at this point, or that Slim Thug is independent; no, you just fell off.

Nelly grew up on E-40 influences, you can go google it

tha cities dikk you riding (St. Louis) looked up to bay and LA nikkaz, that's who they jocked, got they style from, etc, that's wuts so ironic about your whole grudge against tha Bay Area

 

[360dagod]

 

[360dagod]

how come dr dre dont fukk with E-40

 

[Doomsday]

Nelly grew up on E-40 influences, you can go google it

tha cities dikk you riding (St. Louis) looked up to bay and LA nikkaz, that's who they jocked, got they style from, etc, that's wuts so ironic about your whole grudge against tha Bay Area

I don't have a grudge. The truth hurts, as they say.

California is influential because the machine is based in California and New York.

 

[mobbinfms]

I don't have a grudge. The truth hurts, as they say.

California is influential because the machine is based in California and New York.

Receipts on that 1990 claim? According to Wikipedia he got signed to Jive in 94. That comports with my recollection of him signing after the Mail Man EP was first released independently.
If you can prove that he had been secretly signed to a major label four years earlier, then the Bay invented industry plants

 

[Xtraz2]

I don't have a grudge. The truth hurts, as they say.

California is influential because the machine is based in California and New York.

tha truth must be hurting you real bad

there's no more machine nowadays with tha Internet era, why your region still ?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

E40 is a legend in the game, still dropping hits.

 

[Doomsday]

tha truth must be hurting you real bad

there's no more machine nowadays with tha Internet era, why your region still ?

What region do you speak of? If you're talking about cities like Detroit, common sense, it's the blackest city. Society dikk-rides and obsesses over blacks yet hates us at the same time. California has the rich whites, jews, hollywood, and money to market their region.

 

[28 Gramz]

What region do you speak of? If you're talking about cities like Detroit, common sense, it's the blackest city. Society dikk-rides and obsesses over blacks yet hates us at the same time. California has the rich whites, jews, hollywood, and money to market their region.

ATL is just as black though

 

[NoSingleMothersB]

One of the worst rappers of all time. Him, Keak Da Sneak and Mac Dre. Ironcially, they're all from The Bay Area.