Do you put your blackness before your manhood?

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Manhood is not biological, it is a social construct, albeit, a construct that I readily accept.

Man’s role in procreation does not inherently determine anything else about him outside of his ability to impregnate a woman.
Manhood is biological, it is not a social construct, and certain women + rulers made that up so y'all could grind yourselves to death while they laugh + relax...and be proud of it.
This is what a man is:
The term manhood is used to describe the period in a human male's life after he has transitioned from boyhood, having passed through puberty, usually having attained male secondary sexual characteristics, and symbolises a male's coming of age.

Some examples of male secondary sexual characteristics in humans, those acquired as boys become men or even later in life, are:

and that is all.
The whole protector/provider thing? That is a social construct based upon instinct.
 

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Was trying to figure out how I wanted to word this post for a while that was concise and not open to some bs interpretation for fukkery purposes and I got this:

If I had to choose, I want to see all black people doing good, not just all men doing good.
 
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Sounds like you spend a lot of time giving a fukk about labels and other people's opinions.

Have fun with that, breh.
sounds like you spend a lot of time posting in threads just to show how much you don't give a fukk...by giving a fukk.
Enjoy yourself as well, breh.
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You're one of THOSE type nikkas trying to wield concepts and fallacies...and doing it clumsily, with the fakkit-instructed twitter bytch debate style you're using, you won't get anywhere with me, kid.
First, let's bring this out:
Women like women more than men like men

Women are nearly five times more likely to show an automatic preference for their own gender than men are to show such favoritism for their own gender, according to a study in the October issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 87, No. 4).

To explore why their study found the opposite pattern, Rudman and Goodwin evaluated several possible reasons. They found:

  • Women's high self-esteem and female identity, on average, bolstered their automatic liking for women, whereas men's liking for men did not rely on high self-esteem or masculine identity. In other words, women can be characterized as thinking "if I am good and I am female, females are good," whereas men can be characterized as thinking "even if I am good and I am male, men are not necessarily good."

  • Men and women who implicitly favored their mothers over their fathers--such as by associating more positive words with their mothers than their fathers--also showed a pro-female bias, which suggests the influence of maternal bonding on gender preferences. In addition, people who reported being raised primarily by their mothers also showed pro-female bias on the IAT. Researchers, using self-reports, found no evidence that maternal attitudes influenced gender attitudes. In concert, these results are consistent with the theory that developmental events can influence implicit attitudes more than explicit attitudes, Rudman says.

  • Men and women who automatically perceived men as more threatening or intimidating than women also had pro-female preferences, suggesting that negative male stereotypes can promote greater liking for women.

  • Implicitly, men who reported liking sex also preferred women, but only if they were high on sexual experience. Men low on sexual experience showed implicit sexism to the extent they liked sex.
"These results suggest that for men, pro-female bias is moderated by sexual gratification," Rudman says. "By contrast, women who implicitly liked sex also preferred men, whether or not they were high on sexual experience."

You can read the study here:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/2c44/14cde6b6a011e9f4910e6389d658278e3a7a.pdf
Personally:
I let other ethnic groups do their own things in their own countries and I am not going to police people who aren't within my IMMEDIATE community. I do not live in Africa or Jamaica, I am not from Africa or Jamaica, nor am I entitled to an opinion on African or Jamaican matters, GOOD SIR.
I also don't care about or support LGBT culture because some black people happen to be gay; who they sleep with at night, how they express themselves, and the consequences of doing such in places that don't tolerate them...is NOT my concern, because I'm not a homophile. Disagreement doesn't make one a suffix-PHOBE, either. PHOBOS means fear, you fukking idiots.
Stop playing stupid intersectional games with me. They can HYO? (can't say HYON to people who can't figure themselves out) and look for white support like usual.
Speaking on ANTI gay violence initiated and perpetrated by women in Jamaica is NOT a strawman as the entire thread premise is based upon whether or not one's BLACK-MANHOOD is put before one's COMMUNITY BLACKNESS...AKA do you think a WOMAN IS BETTER THAN YOU AUTOMATICALLY?
Women will be asked the same question but we all know that evolution and female social stylings won't allow their true feelings to be expressed. They evolved to be manipulative and put themselves in the best light possible at all times. Not a flaw, just a feature.
Women put gender before race every day...or there wouldn't be a black female copycat subculture based on man-hating.
Black feminism would NOT exist...white women helped birth that.
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I'm just peeping this. It seems you're arguing with an imaginary Twitter feminist at 2am.

I'm actually antifeminist, because a lot (not all) of it is fauxwoke. It uses victimhood to disguise hatred of men. You allowed yourself to get triggered by a simple observation I had about nikkas not liking homos, completely missing the point. You got so emotional that you created a gender-war debate by yourself out of nowhere. I promise you this is what happened. Read our exchange again. Or perhaps it wasn't emotional, maybe just a reflex being on the coli for so long? I don't do Coli debates...

My only point was and is this: you're dap-fishing if you say you're black first. Or you're horribly misguided and brainwashed into western identity politics.

If you had to lose your dikk or your melanin tomorrow, what you choosing?

If you had to be gay or be white tomorrow, what you choosing?

If you had to be trans or Chinese tomorrow, what you choosing?

If you had to be a (black) woman or a (Latino) man tomorrow, what you choosing?

It's easier to say neither, but what comes first? Your manhood is always first.
 

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I'm just peeping this. It seems you're arguing with an imaginary Twitter feminist at 2am.

I'm actually antifeminist, because a lot (not all) of it is fauxwoke. It uses victimhood to disguise hatred of men. You allowed yourself to get triggered by a simple observation I had about nikkas not liking homos, completely missing the point. You got so emotional that you created a gender-war debate by yourself out of nowhere. I promise you this is what happened. Read our exchange again. Or perhaps it wasn't emotional, maybe just a reflex being on the coli for so long? I don't do Coli debates...

My only point was and is this: you're dap-fishing if you say you're black first. Or you're horribly misguided and brainwashed into western identity politics.

If you had to lose your dikk or your melanin tomorrow, what you choosing?

If you had to be gay or be white tomorrow, what you choosing?

If you had to be trans or Chinese tomorrow, what you choosing?

If you had to be a (black) woman or a (Latino) man tomorrow, what you choosing?

It's easier to say neither, but what comes first? Your manhood is always first.

:jbhmm: you have some good points but this thread isn't about who you rather be

This thread is about who are you most likely to agree with and what sense of community for what you identify as takes priority, not why you would choose to be the lesser of two marginalized groups.

If you identity as a man first instead of as black first for the reasons you listed, would you rather see all men do well or all black people?

If so, what makes all men of all races more deserving of a better world, especially over all men, women and children that look like you? As someone who is black and knows how blacks generally are treated globally and historically, are they less important in comparison?

I'm gonna assume you are black and not call you a cac. I'm not dapfishing at all. I just really want to know
 

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:jbhmm: you have some good points but this thread isn't about who you rather be

This thread is about who are you most likely to agree with and what sense of community for what you identify as takes priority, not why you would choose to be the lesser of two marginalized groups.

If you identity as a man first instead of as black first for the reasons you listed, would you rather see all men do well or all black people?

If so, what makes all men of all races more deserving of a better world, especially over all men, women and children that look like you? As someone who is black and knows how blacks generally are treated globally and historically, are they less important in comparison?

I'm gonna assume you are black and not call you a cac. I'm not dapfishing at all. I just really want to know
I'm not more likely to agree with black people than I am to agree with men. Its pretty even in that regard. Many black people hold (gender-based) opinions I disagree with and many nonblacks hold (race-based) opinions I disagree with. So it depends on the conversation.

I would rather all men do well. If all men do well, all black men - and by extension all black women and children - do well. The same is not true in reverse.

No one deserves anything. But manhood and blackness are both social ideas with behavioral assumptions associated with it. There's many destructive behavioral assumptions tied to manhood but likewise, many contructive ones. Men build, conquer, invent, lead, provide, protect, assert, and do countless other positive things in theory. This results in innovation. This results in cities, space travel, technology, industries, etc.

There's many destructive behavioral assumptions tied to blackness - and few truly constructive ones. We sing, we dance, we're superior physically, we're cooler. But these positive traits don't allow us to compete economically, politically, or in the sciences. It allows us to make great art we don't own, play sports for organizations we don't control and start slang that's quickly appropriated. This is because blackness as the social construct it is today was created by the europeans and partly by the arabs, not actual people of dark pigment.

Blackness is fine by me but its not the hill I die on. That hill is covered in explosive landmines. Its not mine. It was given to me.
 
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"I am a nu-black male who puts potential internal enemies and their children before me to sound self sacrificial."
The feminized male who started this thread lacks self understanding about how male racial rivalty and female gender groupings work, because he was raised by and for women, who never let him see behind their social veneers.
A woman is more likely to join up with another woman based on WOMANHOOD.
A man will natually OPPOSE another man, especially a white male enemy.
Please spare me your anecdotes and examples of fringe black.men and white men working together. The opposite RULE (not exception, it's been 50 years of "bytch time):
Black Feminism came from several generations of black women and white women COLLABORATING.
This is not a question for us, nor is it a question a woman would answer honestly. They are a strategic and naturally manipulative group of folks by nature.
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Oh, and the majority of black slave owners?
Not men.
The person who fought to make IR marriage legal? Not a man.
If brehs had a movement like that dedicated to the CONTROL of women, I guarantee our population would be far lower.
We are GOOD MEN for letting them live so long while not checking their group.
Amybody else? Well, you see cac stats on spousal murder and child killing. They really put that :demonic: work in.
 
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