Do you think a God exists?

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God deals with individuals not groups. Truthfully quite a few of us are in certain positions because we choose to be, probably the only group without positive cultural unity, and that has nothing to do with God.

Also, seeming to be the most spiritual doesn't mean much. Many people seem to be what they aren't. I know PLENTY of believers who are prosperous in many aspects of life, they've decided not to WAIT on God and put the work in behind their prayers. You're not suppose to pray and sit idly waitin for God to make change. That's where people get it twisted. You have WORK if you want something, but you can and will get blessings at the drop of a dime too.

So if I work without hard without prayers what would be the difference in your opinion??

 

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What makes us the most spiritual how do you even gauge that.

Depends on your perspective I guess but if we run with the notion we were the first humans by default it would make us the most spiritual also we tend to be the most forgiving which in my opinion is down to religion.

 

[phobos:\\]

So.in your opinion should we punish our enemies ourselves?? Does that not go against the Bible??

When I say "punish enemies" I meant it as a community through our judicial system, not by being vigilantes.That doesn't go against the Bible.

If you are unwilling in punishing those that wish your community harm, those that seek to destroy all you've built, you are weak and deserve destruction in my opinion.

People need to reread the Pentateuch, and reread Judges (one of my favorite books).

 

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When I say "punish enemies" I meant it as a community through our judicial system, not by being vigilantes.That doesn't go against the Bible.

If you are unwilling in punishing those that wish your community harm, those that seek to destroy all you've built, you are weak and deserve destruction in my opinion.

People need to reread the Pentateuch, and reread Judges (one of my favorite books).

Which judicial system are you referring to?? Please elaborate.

 

[Turk]

Atheism is hard to believe to me.

Thats not what atheism even is

Atheism is simply the lack if belief in God. You can be an atheist and not believe in the big bang. This thread ia full of dumb strawmen arguments from both sides

 

[nahnah]

Who knows

Anybody does know, doesn't.

 

[valet]

Thats not what atheism even is

Atheism is simply the lack if belief in God. You can be an atheist and not believe in the big bang. This thread ia full of dumb strawmen arguments from both sides

I agree

 

[JQ Legend]

Every atheist doesnt claim to be a science buff and i have never had a atheist come up to my door. Science gives alternative answers to the the same question answered by religion but unlike religion tries to gove proof. Atheism was and in a lot of places is still very taboo. Scientist in general are still less religious.

U ain't ever had anyone come to your door except maybe a Jehovah witness

Act like a select few random religious people represent all people of all religions brehs

Explain that atheists are not science buffs while being an atheist science buff brehs

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

Maybe, maybe not Don't really care.

The Abrahamic God seems tho

 

[Murkman]

I'll believe Santa robbing the hood of their EBT cards and food stamps, before a Supreme CAC overlord who supposedly gives a fukk about my life. Mind you, one that barely acknowledges Africa exists, in the Bible. I'm Agnostic anyways, fukk it, though Jesus as a human being is somebody peppy should strive towards for character in a Spiritual sense - not the religious sheep way, and full of Whitewashed rhetoric that belongs in a Disney movie.

 

[Retired Account]

U ain't ever had anyone come to your door except maybe a Jehovah witness

Act like a select few random religious people represent all people of all religions brehs

Explain that atheists are not science buffs while being an atheist science buff brehs

I know all religious dont come to your door just like atheist arent science buffs. Aint nothing wrong with science though

 

[Deafheaven]

all you religious idiots are pretty much atheist anyway. We just choose to not believe in one less god than you

 

[Everythingg]

I have a telescope too bruh...you can see for yourself what the moon and the other planets look like follow the rotation of the earth...i suppose you could also precisely measure a full year orbit if you wanted too using stars as a point of reference but i dont have the time for that

so ill just take NASAs word that its 365.24

You dont know whats rotating. Either you, or the planets/outerspace. Ancients like the Egyptians said the outerspace was rotating around a FLAT earth. You say what the cacs of today tell you. Why?

But your answer is telling. You trust NASA for the info. Thats what I thought...

and what do you mean by ball? youre not seriously saying the earth is flat

I dont know what it is. All I know is when we step outside, my and your senses do not match a moving spinning ball earth. It does match a flat earth that is stationary. So my question, as someone who doesnt automatically lean to one side or another, why should I ignore what my senses sense, for what cacs tell me? You? Why do you ignore your senses for that which does not match your senses?

 

[Coli Bot]

I don't normally participate in these debates because they are pointless, especially since I know God is real.

What irks me is when people blame the Creator for things man does, like the dude saying children are dying of starvation. God didn't do that, man chooses to allow these things to happen. We received irrevocable free will, the same way we can have children that can grow up to do horrible things or amazing things beyond our control as parents, is the same way the Creator allows man to do as we please. He set rules down for mankind just as we set rules down for our children, yet in the end free will is what reigns supreme.

The Eden lesson was a prime example of free will in action, the Creator set man up in a perfect environment in an elevated state of existence with only two rules to follow. Man fukked that package up, there was nothing the Creator could do but plan accordingly while letting man live out the consequences.

Hes an all knowing God so he knew we would fukk up.

And why put a tree there in the first place? and why allow the devil to try and tempt nikkaz why not just destroy him?

We are entertainment to him.

 

[Safe]

Hes an all knowing God so he knew we would fukk up.

And why put a tree there in the first place? and why allow the devil to try and tempt nikkaz why not just destroy him?

We are entertainment to him.

Free will, the sad part is so few detractors actually READ the very thing they are detracting. If you actually read the Bible there are many parts where God straight up says, if you do A, this will happen and if you do B, this will happen instead. So, yes God can see all the probabilities that exist, all possible outcomes and has plan for each, BUT it's our free will that determines everything. Our decisions. In the Eden scenario there were basically 4 outcomes, the one man chose put the Messiah timeline into play. It meant a chosen people would have to formed and maintain genetic purity until a Messiah could be born from those people.

I'm a flawed nikka but I have read the Quran, I've read the entire Bible twice, I've read about Voodoo, Rosicrucianism, Satanism, Golden Dawnism, all types of shyt just so I could have an understanding before I speak on a particular subject. One thing I learned is almost all of our power as humans comes from our free will (words and actions are the only thing a man truly owns so therein lies his power).