Do you think Obama speaking directly on Trump is just going to charge up the Republican base?

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Some said he couldn’t have won before when this was brought up. BUT knowing what we know now, he would be a super effective person against someone like trump
see i always thought that "uncle joe" shyt (:scusthov:) would prevent him from ever being a serious candidate. but against trump, it would have been completely negated by trump's disgusting conduct :dead:
 

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Focusing on the actors will never lead to meaningful change.
This is one of the areas the right gets right, and the left often gets wrong.
 
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Focusing on the actors will never lead to meaningful change.
This is one of the areas the right gets right, and the left often gets wrong.

I agree but the times are changing

I think the left is going to start getting it right because you have a base and a general public that like big universal policies or programs aimed at bettering the common good.

And people are running on them and will have a better chance of winning over stale personality politics or chasing the mythical middle.
 

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I agree but the times are changing

I think the left is going to start getting it right because you have a base and a general public that like big universal policies or programs aimed at bettering the common good.

And people are running on them and will have a better chance of winning over stale personality politics or chasing the mythical middle.
I think progressives get it right, but Dems haven't quite figured it out... or maybe they have, but believe their brand of tribalism will generate greater returns.
 

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Hasn't the last month taught everyone that trying not to upset Republicans isn't the way to win???

Obama came out blasting. FINALLY took credit for this recovery instead of letting Trump dikkride his coattails. I listened to his whole speech, pure ether. Dude could run for dictator after that speech :mjlol:

All this good shyt you got,
you got from me.
Forty-five minus one
equals "real OG"

Trying to fill my spot
like your whack comb over.
Peel that orange off your cap,
Don't make me drive over

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There is a good percentage of Trump voters aren't just fighting against Obama though, they are fighting against change, fighting against society progressing forward and you and i for having different skin color. Yes Obama definitely rallies them up but they was going to vote anyway.
False.
They are fighting against the change, and progress forward, you want.




:ehh:I respect the gall to presume absolute ownership of "progress" and "change" though. I couldn't imagine beginning to define these things for everyone else in absolute terms the way me and my ilk see fit. Takes moxie.
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False.
They are fighting against the change, and progress forward, you want.




:ehh:I respect the gall to presume absolute ownership of "progress" and "change" though. I couldn't imagine beginning to define these things for everyone else in absolute terms the way me and my ilk see fit. Takes moxie.
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Sure those on the other side have their own vision for America as well as i do. But how is limiting a woman's right to choose with abortion, Not coming to the table to at the very least hear out our plan for healthcare for millions of Americans "progressing forward" How is it at all progressive to refuse to even listen when we say kneeling isn't about the military but rather about black men and women being gunned down by cops with no accountability what so ever and no reforms either?.

I don't own any word but i was born here in America just like those with different political ideals were and live here like many of us Americans do. Completely shutting me down because of what i and many progressives want doesn't seem like progress or change to me. More like keeping things the same and in the past.
 

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What’s amazing about that is I was totally oblivious to the depth festering hate for that man..
You didn’t think a racist country would elect a black man and be a bit upset?
 

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Yeah Obama won places Hillary didn't. Also he eat her ass in 2008 tonget the nomination. That is a clear sign that people just didn't like Hillary that were ok with Obama.
Their racism for obama can be explained. They really believe Hilary is the antichrist.

But she still netted 3 million more votes.
 

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You Muricans are so fukking stupid treating politics like WWF.

Obama just cut the meanest promo ever and now Trump's coming down the ramp like...

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perhaps in a past climate where republicans were undercover racists or more discrete about it, yeah obama’s support might charge up a racist population to vote.

but trump has already doubled down on charging up the racist/white supremist niche of america by being openly blatant about it. so they will already be out there voting for him regardless now.

so it’s necessary for democrats to counter by charging up the minorities of america. non-racists/minorities/Democrats will overpower the trump base when they show up to the polls.
 

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there is no downside to having obama stump. people who hate him already hate him and trump has a genuine cult that is energized by his impending impeachment and indictment if democrats take over. cacs are now naturally inflamed with no need of an irritant. however, obama's ability to actually help other democrats win is very lackluster given his personal charm and high approval. he is a proven under-performer. the only saving grace is you can argue that americans always vote for balance against the party in the white house, so maybe it's not obama's fault.

either way, i do think policy is becoming more important than personality now that we have some actual progressives and millennials are broke AF.
 
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