Do you think the NCAA will be able to keep this business model up forever?

[FTBS]

That sounds good until it comes to recruiting. If Nike can throw cats more endorsements than anyone else where you think all these kids gonna go. Oh a billionaire oil tyc00n needs a new endorser...that 5 star QB is a good lookin kid. I'll throw him a milli he can endorse my company and go to my alma
I can't think of a way to pay them that doesn't open a can of worms

shyt like that already happens. It's just silly to front about it. If you just remove the charade everybody wins and all the effort and energy put into trying to stop nikkas from getting free shoes can be put into preventing Penn State type shyt from happening.

What's so wrong with the scenario you put forth? Why is capitalism such a good idea everywhere but college sports? Kids use all kinds of shallow reasoning to pick schools--weather, bytches, national tv games, facilities, winning tradition etc. What is so wrong about a kid picking a school as a part of a business deal? Who exactly is getting hurt in that scenario?

 

[Skilltastrophy]

no but that's what i'll call them. and if someone signs up for it they can get away with it cause they know what they are getting into they know the rules they have to abide by.
yall are talkin like this kids fall off the turnip truck and don't know what's goin on.
I used to want players to be paid too, then i went to college and saw true freshman RBs driving Denali's on 22s struggling these cats are not.

and that second part...that's why I don't understand your premise

you basically admitted that you believe it's going on now...then why not put it above board and regulate it?

it's the same argument for legalizing marjiuana.

 

[PortCityProphet]

shyt like that already happens. It's just silly to front about it. If you just remove the charade everybody wins and all the effort and energy put into trying to stop nikkas from getting free shoes can be put into preventing Penn State type shyt from happening.

What's so wrong with the scenario you put forth? Why is capitalism such a good idea everywhere but college sports? Kids use all kinds of shallow reasoning to pick schools--weather, bytches, national tv games, facilities, winning tradition etc. What is so wrong about a kid picking a school as a part of a business deal? Who exactly is getting hurt in that scenario?

and that second part...that's why I don't understand your premise

you basically admitted that you believe it's going on now...then why not put it above board and regulate it?

it's the same argument for legalizing marjiuana.

That's cause I believe the current under table system works better than a standard system. The way it works now is actually how y'all want it to work but you don't realize it. The players who deserve benefits get them. The superstar player (the ones y'all care about) gets his car and his hundred dollar handshakes. The 4th stringers who never see the field get what they put in instead of getting the same as what the stars get.

 

[FTBS]

That's cause I believe the current under table system works better than a standard system. The way it works now is actually how y'all want it to work but you don't realize it. The players who deserve benefits get them. The superstar player (the ones y'all care about) gets his car and his hundred dollar handshakes. The 4th stringers who never see the field get what they put in instead of getting the same as what the stars get.

The only problem is that guys are not getting all they can get meanwhile the schools are raking the money in hand over fist on the backs of these players. I just want a system where everybody is able to get what they can get and there is no phoniness and hypocrisy. I'm all for guys getting what they deserve the only problem is this current system doesn't allow it.

 

[Birnin Zana]

That's cause I believe the current under table system works better than a standard system. The way it works now is actually how y'all want it to work but you don't realize it. The players who deserve benefits get them. The superstar player (the ones y'all care about) gets his car and his hundred dollar handshakes. The 4th stringers who never see the field get what they put in instead of getting the same as what the stars get.

It's all good until they get caught. Reggie bush lost his heisman. Terrell pryor's collegiate career ended prematurely, forcing him to either give up a year or take a big risk with the supplemental draft. AJ green was suspended a couple of games because he sold his jersey on eBay for some money. And many more.

These guys did not get in trouble for things that gave them an advantage on the field. They got in trouble for making some dough, something their fellow classmates have the right to do in college, regardless of whether or not they have a scholarship.

Keeping it under the table will result in more silly scandals and more careers stained or ruined, all in the name of some archaic, unfair rules and petty traditions.

The athletes deserve compensation. Let them earn money outside of the university. Everyone wins as a result, without fear of having one's hopes and dreams and university's goals for the season get thrown in the bushes for someone every other American has the right to do.

 

[Houston911]

I'm talking about the greatest business model of all time. The one where you don't have to pay your workers?

Don't you think that eventually this scam is going to get flip on his head?

Not to mention all the other shyt that goes on, scholarships only being 1 year.

Coaches pushing players to major in consumer science and kinesiology?

What has to happen to change all of this?

Bu bu bu bu bu bu they go to scho free and I had loans they should be happy

 

[jadillac]

thats not compensation...thats a barter system, and its completely imbalanced in favor of the institution. Im a graduate student and all of my tuition is handled via grants and scholarships. Im not an athlete.

It's not completey unbalanced if you have a full scholly and you're on the row/crew team.

So now you're getting into semantics as to whether or not football players should be paid vs the row/crew team being paid as well, or not being paid at al b/c the row/crew team probably doesnt make any money. And now you're gonna decide which STUDENT should get paid more.

See where that goes?

The problem is that, like i said earlier, the situation used to be balanced and fair before college football/bball became a billion dollar business.

 

[PortCityProphet]

The only problem is that guys are not getting all they can get meanwhile the schools are raking the money in hand over fist on the backs of these players. I just want a system where everybody is able to get what they can get and there is no phoniness and hypocrisy. I'm all for guys getting what they deserve the only problem is this current system doesn't allow it.

man this is merica nobody gets what they deserve

 

[MikelArteta]

nothing lasts for ever, but the nfl and ncaa , and ncaa nad nba are close

however im surprised some billionaire hasnt come up with a minor league football/basketball league that pays good $$$ for players like 18-22, while also paying for their education shrugs

look at soccer teams in europe with their training academy signing kids as young as 6 or 7

 

[PortCityProphet]

It's all good until they get caught. Reggie bush lost his heisman. Terrell pryor's collegiate career ended prematurely, forcing him to either give up a year or take a big risk with the supplemental draft. AJ green was suspended a couple of games because he sold his jersey on eBay for some money. And many more.

These guys did not get in trouble for things that gave them an advantage on the field. They got in trouble for making some dough, something their fellow classmates have the right to do in college, regardless of whether or not they have a scholarship.

Keeping it under the table will result in more silly scandals and more careers stained or ruined, all in the name of some archaic, unfair rules and petty traditions.

The athletes deserve compensation. Let them earn money outside of the university. Everyone wins as a result, without fear of having one's hopes and dreams and university's goals for the season get thrown in the bushes for someone every other American has the right to do.

i know you didnt just try to turn Terell "Tatted Up" Pryor into a victim this nikka lived a better life at OSU than he does in Oakland
and yall fail to see how an open market for players would turn out. this Ndkenchi cat would live in a mansion on campus he woulda raked in so much dough during recruiting.

 

[Birnin Zana]

i know you didnt just try to turn Terell "Tatted Up" Pryor into a victim this nikka lived a better life at OSU than he does in Oakland
and yall fail to see how an open market for players would turn out. this Ndkenchi cat would live in a mansion on campus he woulda raked in so much dough during recruiting.

Bottom line is, his plans to play were shut down and his school and teammates were penalyzed for it because of the under the table stuff. Only in college sports would he get in trouble for this. I see nothing wrong with him making money outside of the university, as long as it isn't illegal, just as everyone on campuses in america has the right to do so.

As for the recruit from ole miss. Real talk, so what if he stacks dough? Why should he not, especially when people deem him that valuable? Ole Miss will make far more off his (and his teammates') play.

Again, I'm talking about athletes making money outside of the university. All the university offers is scholarship for tuition and room and board, as they would for other full-ride students. If people feel the player is worth it and are willing to pay the athlete to be their spokesman, and the player agrees and it's legal, what's wrong with that?

 

[Skilltastrophy]

why is everyone so worried about these players making mad loot?

that's the biggest problem...everyone is still protecting this nonsense about equality and fairness in amateur athletics...it's bullshyt...the best players and biggest recruits that make schools the most money should be able to profit off their name and their performance and their likeness

so what if they make more money?...so what if some boosters start paying these kids?...it's their money...they will do with it what they will...and I think everyone knows it's already happening...it's just that right now everyone is living in this silly charade and getting faux mad when somebody gets caught and then wants to see them punished all the while they know it's still going on...it makes no got damn sense

I mean what's this REALLY about?...why shouldn't players be allowed to make money if it's already happening? why should we be worried about the balance of power when the power's already unbalanced?

 

[tremonthustler1]

nothing lasts for ever, but the nfl and ncaa , and ncaa nad nba are close

however im surprised some billionaire hasnt come up with a minor league football/basketball league that pays good $$$ for players like 18-22, while also paying for their education shrugs

Nobody would give a shyt. Besides, the billionaire would rather cop a pro team while being a loyal booster. Your formula is too complicated to pull off while they get an education.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I thought they could. Wasn't it a football league that let 18 year olds play? I remember hearing bout one awhile back.

is it the IFL or something? i dunno. i never heard of a pro football league allowing this.

i dont know why any football player would want to go to the pros at 18 unless theyre starving for money.

 

[FTBS]

man this is merica nobody gets what they deserve

Yeah people get what they can get...unless of course they play a college sport. In that case the schools, coaches, sponsors, tv networks get what they can get and the kids get played in the name of fake ass amatuerism.