Does anyone else feel Jerry Rice isn't talked about enough?

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Reminds me of Kareem in a sense.

I think every other football stat is somewhat reachable, but there's nobody within 5,000 yards of Jerry Rice's reception yards. :damn: That's NOT being surpassed, much like Kareem's all-time scoring stats won't be.

He's some 200+ catches ahead of the 2nd place leader in receptions.

And he did all this in the era before it was pass, pass, pass and when the rules were less favorable to the offense.

Forget just talking WR's, he should be considered the greatest football player of all-time. But you don't hear that argument much.

What do y'all think?:jbhmm:
 

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His records are untouchable. 1500+ catches and 200+ total touchdowns? Arguable he's the greatest athlete ever. That's as unreadable as 800 home runs or 5000 hits. We won't see anyone reach these marks. It's just not reasonable. It took him 20 years to do all that and this was with him losing basically all of 1997 too. What else is there to talk about? The consensus is basically unanimous. In a 12 game strike shortened 1987 season he still caught 22 touchdowns. In 1987! :wow:
 

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They're too busy giving Montana all the credit.
More often people try to discredit Montana by saying he had Rice than the other way around.

I don't see the point of this thread. If it's a Jerry Rice appreciation thread and meant to discuss his ridiculous acvomplishments cool, but it's not like people don't talk about him or give him his due credit. He's universally acknowledged as the GOAT WR and many consider him the GOAT football player period.
 

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More often people try to discredit Montana by saying he had Rice than the other way around.

I don't see the point of this thread. If it's a Jerry Rice appreciation thread and meant to discuss his ridiculous acvomplishments cool, but it's not like people don't talk about him or give him his due credit. He's universally acknowledged as the GOAT WR and many consider him the GOAT football player period.

he's not talked about in the same way a Michael Jordan is talked about regarding basketball.
 
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I'm :flabbynsick: and Rice has been my favorite player my whole life. I've never heard anyone give anything but the utmost respect for him. Even during those Oakland and Seattle years.
 

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"No one questions Rice’s legitimacy as a Hall of Famer. But when it comes to Rice’s ultimate legacy, the question is whether he was one of the greatest players ever, or thegreatest player ever. And there will be some who think Rice’s otherworldly numbers (aka Parts I and II) need to be discounted because he benefited so much from playing with Joe Montana and Steve Young for the majority of his career. Clearly, Rice was fortunate to play with Montana and Young. No one disputes that. The question is: by how much? That’s an impossible question to answer, but what we can do is look at the seasons during which Rice was working with a non-Montana/Young QB for a substantial amount of time:

  • In Rice’s rookie year, Montana missed one game. Matt Cavanaugh started against the Eagles, who had one of the best pass defenses in the league. Rice caught 3 passes for 71 yards and a score.
  • In 1986, Rice’s second season, Montana suffered a severe back injury in week one that nearly ended his career. Jeff Kemp (6) and Mike Moroski (2) started half of the season before Montana came back. In those eight games, Rice caught 40 passes for 820 yards and 9 TDs. Over sixteen games, 80 receptions, 1640 yards and 18 TDs would have been the most impressive season by any receiver in the league. Excluding Rice (who had 86-1570-15), Stanley Morgan had the second most receiving yards (1491) and Wesley Walker was second in receiving touchdowns (12). And yes, to those observant readers, Rice’s numbers that season were better without a gimpy Montana than with one.
  • Montana and Young would start every non-strike game over the next four seasons, so let’s skip ahead to 1991. Montana had a season-ending elbow injury in the pre-season and Young injured his knee in mid-season. Steve Bono started six games for the 49ers, and Rice caught 33 passes for 415 yards and four scores playing with Bono. After losing their first start under Bono, the 49ers would win their next five games. Pro-rated over 16 games, Rice (88 receptions, 1107 yards, 10.7 TDs) would have ranked 4th, 8th and 5th in receptions, receiving yards and receiving TDs with Bono.
  • In 1995, Young went down again, and this time Elvis Grbac took over. In five starts, Rice put up an absurd 31-550-4, for a pro-rated 99-1760-12.8 (actual 122-1848-15). Those 1760 receiving yards would be good enough for #2 all-time on the single-season list.
  • Young missed four more starts in 1996, with Grbac again picking up the slack. Rice scored in every game, and caught 27 passes for 322 yards and 5 scores. The pro-rated Rice would have led the league with his 108 catches and ranked 4th with his 1288 yards; his 20 TDs would outpace the #2 man by six scores. The actual Rice had 108-1254-8.
So for 5 seasons, Grbac (9), Kemp (6), Bono (6), Moroski (2) and Cavanugh (1) started 24 games for the 49ers. In exactly a year and a half’s worth of games, Rice caught 134 passes for 2,177 yards and 23 TDs, and ran for one score as well. That’s an average season of 89 catches, 1451 receiving yards and 16 touchdowns, or roughly the career best season for nearly every WR who has ever played the game. And, of course, only 25% of those games came during what we would typically call a wide receiver’s prime. Eighteen of those 24 games that he played without Montana or Young came during Rice’s first or second season, or when he was 33- or 34-years old. In ’95 and ’96, playing at an age when most receivers start slowing down, catching passes from Elvis Grbac, and playing with Derek Loville and Terry Kirby at RB, Rice put up numbers that could arguably pass for the best season of Cris Carter’s or Steve Largent’s career."

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