Does anyone else feel Jerry Rice isn't talked about enough?

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Pretty much the GOAT receiver and it's not even up for debate...

There isn't really a reason to ever talk about anybody who is the undisputed best ever at his position... i mean you could make a legit argument for rice being the goat athlete...ever :ehh:
 

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"No one questions Rice’s legitimacy as a Hall of Famer. But when it comes to Rice’s ultimate legacy, the question is whether he was one of the greatest players ever, or thegreatest player ever. And there will be some who think Rice’s otherworldly numbers (aka Parts I and II) need to be discounted because he benefited so much from playing with Joe Montana and Steve Young for the majority of his career. Clearly, Rice was fortunate to play with Montana and Young. No one disputes that. The question is: by how much? That’s an impossible question to answer, but what we can do is look at the seasons during which Rice was working with a non-Montana/Young QB for a substantial amount of time:

  • In Rice’s rookie year, Montana missed one game. Matt Cavanaugh started against the Eagles, who had one of the best pass defenses in the league. Rice caught 3 passes for 71 yards and a score.
  • In 1986, Rice’s second season, Montana suffered a severe back injury in week one that nearly ended his career. Jeff Kemp (6) and Mike Moroski (2) started half of the season before Montana came back. In those eight games, Rice caught 40 passes for 820 yards and 9 TDs. Over sixteen games, 80 receptions, 1640 yards and 18 TDs would have been the most impressive season by any receiver in the league. Excluding Rice (who had 86-1570-15), Stanley Morgan had the second most receiving yards (1491) and Wesley Walker was second in receiving touchdowns (12). And yes, to those observant readers, Rice’s numbers that season were better without a gimpy Montana than with one.
  • Montana and Young would start every non-strike game over the next four seasons, so let’s skip ahead to 1991. Montana had a season-ending elbow injury in the pre-season and Young injured his knee in mid-season. Steve Bono started six games for the 49ers, and Rice caught 33 passes for 415 yards and four scores playing with Bono. After losing their first start under Bono, the 49ers would win their next five games. Pro-rated over 16 games, Rice (88 receptions, 1107 yards, 10.7 TDs) would have ranked 4th, 8th and 5th in receptions, receiving yards and receiving TDs with Bono.
  • In 1995, Young went down again, and this time Elvis Grbac took over. In five starts, Rice put up an absurd 31-550-4, for a pro-rated 99-1760-12.8 (actual 122-1848-15). Those 1760 receiving yards would be good enough for #2 all-time on the single-season list.
  • Young missed four more starts in 1996, with Grbac again picking up the slack. Rice scored in every game, and caught 27 passes for 322 yards and 5 scores. The pro-rated Rice would have led the league with his 108 catches and ranked 4th with his 1288 yards; his 20 TDs would outpace the #2 man by six scores. The actual Rice had 108-1254-8.
So for 5 seasons, Grbac (9), Kemp (6), Bono (6), Moroski (2) and Cavanugh (1) started 24 games for the 49ers. In exactly a year and a half’s worth of games, Rice caught 134 passes for 2,177 yards and 23 TDs, and ran for one score as well. That’s an average season of 89 catches, 1451 receiving yards and 16 touchdowns, or roughly the career best season for nearly every WR who has ever played the game. And, of course, only 25% of those games came during what we would typically call a wide receiver’s prime. Eighteen of those 24 games that he played without Montana or Young came during Rice’s first or second season, or when he was 33- or 34-years old. In ’95 and ’96, playing at an age when most receivers start slowing down, catching passes from Elvis Grbac, and playing with Derek Loville and Terry Kirby at RB, Rice put up numbers that could arguably pass for the best season of Cris Carter’s or Steve Largent’s career."

Randy Moss: Jerry Rice had two HOF QBs his whole career
quoted for emphasis...Rice would have put up numbers with me throwing him the ball. he is the GOAT.
 

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he's not talked about in the same way a Michael Jordan is talked about regarding basketball.

You sure you wanna hear "next Jerry Rice" or "would Jerry Rice do that" in reference to every young talented WR? :usure: How much do you really expect a guy that retired a decade ago to be discussed? The Jordan shyt is just some crackhead shyt. You dont see other legends or even GOATs from the past constantly discussed like that.
 

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Nfl buries their players when it comes to keeping the history of the game going. Most likely cause they want to focus in the guys now cause they have short lived careers and don't need these cats all over the place then bam they can't talk or walk anymore. Not a good look for the game.
 

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Reminds me of Kareem in a sense.

I think every other football stat is somewhat reachable, but there's nobody within 5,000 yards of Jerry Rice's reception yards. :damn: That's NOT being surpassed, much like Kareem's all-time scoring stats won't be.

He's some 200+ catches ahead of the 2nd place leader in receptions.

And he did all this in the era before it was pass, pass, pass and when the rules were less favorable to the offense.

Forget just talking WR's, he should be considered the greatest football player of all-time. But you don't hear that argument much.

What do y'all think?:jbhmm:

:dahell:

Everybody knows Rice is the best WR of all time.
 

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probably because he snitched on himself for using stickem
 

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could make a legit argument for rice being the goat athlete...ever

And considering what you said, you think he gets that amount of pub? :upsetfavre:

I bet a good number of youngsters don't know much of Jerry Rice as they do Michael Jordan or some other athletes
 

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i agree, for being one of the GOATs if not the one he doesnt get the same love Gretzky/MJ and some others get

his records are simply amazing
 

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he's not talked about in the same way a Michael Jordan is talked about regarding basketball.

To be fair, a large part of the reason Jordan is still discussed is because of the marketing of his brand and the moves he made off of the court. You can't really compare any athlete to Jordan in that regard.
 

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He isn't talked about because its not a good topic for debate he is just the flat out best it is, the best it was and the best there ever will be.
 
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