Does anyone know why NYS sends money to Red States?

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Thought they were doing fine? Why they need money for ?


Senator Moynihan, during his 24 years in office, made it a habit of reporting on a “balance of payments deficit” between and among the federal government and the states. He would annually compare the amount of money collected from New York residents and businesses in various taxes with the amount of federal money paid to New York State residents, its localities and school districts.

The taxes sent to Washington from New Yorkers always dwarfed the amounts sent back to New York by the federal government. Kentucky and a number of other states were on the receiving end of our money. The pattern was consistent over the years.

Moynihan left office in 2000 and passed away in 2003. But the data is still there, and given Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell’s call for the states to go bankrupt, a suggestion he backtracked on when it was pointed out to him that such action was illegal, it is time to revive the data.



 

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its the same thing that haiti did/does to france. in the weird world we live in the victors of independence wars subsidizes the continued existence of the loser state.
Haiti paid reparations out to the French, the Union (states) pays out reparations to the confederacy (states).

even if you look at just the original confederate and union states, you'll see that even for the coli republicans, mises.org has to agree that red states receive far more federal dollars than they collect.

No, Red State Economies Don't Depend on a "Gravy Train" from Blue States | Ryan McMaken


 

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its the same thing that haiti did/does to france. in the weird world we live in the victors of independence wars subsidizes the continued existence of the loser state.
Haiti paid reparations out to the French, the Union (states) pays out reparations to the confederacy (states).

even if you look at just the original confederate and union states, you'll see that even for the coli republicans, mises.org has to agree that red states receive far more federal dollars than they collect.

No, Red State Economies Don't Depend on a "Gravy Train" from Blue States | Ryan McMaken


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Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
Thought they were doing fine? Why they need money for ?


Senator Moynihan, during his 24 years in office, made it a habit of reporting on a “balance of payments deficit” between and among the federal government and the states. He would annually compare the amount of money collected from New York residents and businesses in various taxes with the amount of federal money paid to New York State residents, its localities and school districts.

The taxes sent to Washington from New Yorkers always dwarfed the amounts sent back to New York by the federal government. Kentucky and a number of other states were on the receiving end of our money. The pattern was consistent over the years.

Moynihan left office in 2000 and passed away in 2003. But the data is still there, and given Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell’s call for the states to go bankrupt, a suggestion he backtracked on when it was pointed out to him that such action was illegal, it is time to revive the data.



All blue states should stop sending momey to red states.
 

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Because the implicit(with their public face, at least) assumption blue states operate on is that everybody should pull together and help equally. Red states don't care, they will pay lip service to that idea and cheat the federal system every which way they can. "States' rights", good ol' boy networks, local county shenanigans, evangelical pandering, all the usual games right down to homeowners' associations. If you're giving money away, they'll take it and laugh at you on the back end for being too stupid to not recognize the jux.

They've never played "fair" from the beginning anyway, they've never been effectively checked on their nonsense, why would they switch up now? They've been emboldened since the Civil War aftermath, so now you get what you get.
 

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All blue states should stop sending momey to red states.

The sad thing is this wont actually hurt republicans. They are perfectly fine letting public services (except roads) deterioirate and letting their constituents suffer. The constituents would be perfectly fine with it as we see in west virginia.

I think out of all the red states, only alaska, utah, and wyoming would be fine. Everyone else is screwed. And these states would only survive because two of em rely on natural resources to support their populace, while the third relies on the shady dealings of their state cult to prop themselves up.
 

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Yeah I never understood this they brought this up a while ago when Mitch McConnell and chuck schumer was beefing and it was never answered :wtf: these red states need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps :mjpls:
 

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The sad thing is this wont actually hurt republicans. They are perfectly fine letting public services (except roads) deterioirate and letting their constituents suffer. The constituents would be perfectly fine with it as we see in west virginia.

I think out of all the red states, only alaska, utah, and wyoming would be fine. Everyone else is screwed. And these states would only survive because two of em rely on natural resources to support their populace, while the third relies on the shady dealings of their state cult to prop themselves up.

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Brooklyn keeps on taking it.
Because the implicit(with their public face, at least) assumption blue states operate on is that everybody should pull together and help equally. Red states don't care, they will pay lip service to that idea and cheat the federal system every which way they can. "States' rights", good ol' boy networks, local county shenanigans, evangelical pandering, all the usual games right down to homeowners' associations. If you're giving money away, they'll take it and laugh at you on the back end for being too stupid to not recognize the jux.

They've never played "fair" from the beginning anyway, they've never been effectively checked on their nonsense, why would they switch up now? They've been emboldened since the Civil War aftermath, so now you get what you get.
And this horrible ideology is why democrats look incompetent today. They create spoiled societies and end up being in large deficits because they have to save everybody.

The Democrat party needs a huge overhaul
 
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