Does Arming Rebels Ever Work? (CIA report admits it seldom does)

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Does Arming Rebels Ever Work?

By Joshua Keating

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Afghan Mujahedeen fighters pose with a captured Soviet soldier in 1986.
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The New York Times reports today on a still-classified CIA report, commissioned by the Obama administration during the debate in 2012 and 2013 over whether to increase U.S. support for the anti-Assad rebels in Syria. Senior officials tell the Timesthat the report “concluded that many past attempts by the agency to arm foreign forces covertly had a minimal impact on the long-term outcome of a conflict. They were even less effective, the report found, when the militias fought without any direct American support on the ground.”

Obama referred to this report in an interview with the New Yorker’s David Remnick last year, saying, “Very early in this process, I actually asked the CIA to analyze examples of America financing and supplying arms to an insurgency in a country that actually worked out well. And they couldn’t come up with much.”

The best example they found was the support for the anti-Soviet mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 1980s, which eventually forced a Soviet withdrawal from the country. But Afghanistan’s subsequent experience doesn’t exactly make that an encouraging case study.

The fact that the president and his advisors are talking about the unreleased document may be part of a plan to counter a line of criticism voiced by, among others, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. That criticism—that the situation in Syria wouldn’t have spiraled out of control if the U.S. had provided more aid to the “moderate” rebels sooner—is contradicted by the CIA’s report.

The CIA’s assessment jibes with the academic literature on the topic, as George Washington University political scientist Marc Lynch recently wrote on theWashington Post’s Monkey Cage blog:

In general, external support for rebels almost always make wars longer, bloodier, and harder to resolve. … Worse, as the University of Maryland’s David Cunningham has shown, Syria had most of the characteristics of the type of civil war in which external support for rebels is least effective. The University of Colorado’s Aysegul Aydin and Binghamton University’s Patrick Regan have suggested that external support for a rebel group could help when all the external powers backing a rebel group are on the same page and effectively cooperate in directing resources to a common end. Unfortunately, Syria was never that type of civil war.​

The U.S. occasionally aided anti-Communist rebel groups throughout the Cold War—the Bay of Pigs invasion was a notable example—but it really ramped up its support with the “Reagan doctrine” of the 1980s, which involved countering Soviet support for leftist governments in the developing world by funding anti-Communist rebel groups. In addition to Afghanistan, the CIA funneled arms and money to anti-Communist rebels in Nicaragua and Afghanistan.

In the context of the Cold War, there’s an argument to be made that this strategy worked—the Soviet Union collapsed, after all—but in the actual conflicts, the outcomes were ambiguous and the wars longer and bloodier than they might have been otherwise. (Angola’s civil war lasted 27 years.)

The study of history might have led to the White House’s reluctance to have the CIA provide direct aid to the rebels. The agency, though, was involved in facilitating aidfrom others, Arab governments and Turkey in particular, who may have been less discriminating about the recipients of that support than the U.S. might have been. When future historians ponder the lessons of this engagement, they may conclude that historical examples led the U.S. away from one set of mistakes and toward a whole different set of errors.
 

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Of course it doesn't.

It may work in the short term but it will cause blow back in the long term

See.

Mujahideen and Soviet Russia in the late 1980's

Osama Bin Laden and the Taliben were those same Mujaihdeen fighters.

And of course it just promotes more blood shed on top of it all
 

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It's encouraging that the only positive case that could be found were the people who blew up the World Trade Center (twice), kicked off global jihad, and engaged us in the longest war in American history.
 

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Let's stop the bullsh!t. The CIA (and Western ''intelligence'' in general) doesn't just arm rebels. It literally and consciously creates enemies for the sole purpose of land conquering (moreso corporate/banking expansion) for the benefit of a very small, rich and powerful minority. You can argue that the average American citizen receives some benefit from such a rouse, but I think any such argument would be very short-sighted. Any other subscription as to what Western intelligence does on foreign lands is a lie.

Really, let's stop lying to ourselves.
 

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Worked in 1776 (American Revolutionary War). Worked in 1975 (Vietnam)

It only works if the rebels you're funding have a united organization. Otherwise, those weapons will go all over the place.
 

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Let's stop the bullsh!t. The CIA (and Western ''intelligence'' in general) doesn't just arm rebels. It literally and consciously creates enemies for the sole purpose of land conquering (moreso corporate/banking expansion) for the benefit of a very small, rich and powerful minority. You can argue that the average American citizen receives some benefit from such a rouse, but I think any such argument would be very short-sighted. Any other subscription as to what Western intelligence does on foreign lands is a lie.

Really, let's stop lying to ourselves.
Dulles Brothers :sas2:
 

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Let's stop the bullsh!t. The CIA (and Western ''intelligence'' in general) doesn't just arm rebels. It literally and consciously creates enemies for the sole purpose of land conquering (moreso corporate/banking expansion) for the benefit of a very small, rich and powerful minority. You can argue that the average American citizen receives some benefit from such a rouse, but I think any such argument would be very short-sighted. Any other subscription as to what Western intelligence does on foreign lands is a lie.

Really, let's stop lying to ourselves.

great post.

people love the democracy narrative because it's a convenient way to handle what's happening int he world... the real truth is much too harsh, too unbelievable for regular folks to comprehend.
 

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Those rebels have the same mentality and culture of their oppressors, so it's no surprise that when they get in power, they engage in the same sort of brutality. They just happened to be on the losing side of the equation.

Another aspect to consider is that neither rebel or power in charge wants Americans in their country, bottom line. It's like two brothers who fight each other or a married couple who are fighting each other. When someone outside party steps in, they'll attack that outside party.

These rebel groups wil take the weapons we give them, but they are well aware that we're trying to covertly move into their territory. When they get in power, they will fight us just like former regime did and then we'll have to look for some new reason to topple their government... and more and more trillions go down the drain.

Instead of sitting around spending so much time in these oil countries, we should have been dumping those trillions into finding some new, oil-independent sources of energy.
 
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