Does God hate sinners?

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-No, God let's you make choices & live with the consequences.

even when you are not old enough to make choices or are unsound of mind ..

or he makes loving choices for you - birth defects, accidents, disease.

as for those poor animals.

love indeed.

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G-d made the Devil

The ultimate "sinner"

All the good comes from G-d

As well as all the bad

You're fearfully and wonderfully made. To be exactly what you are.

Does Ice Cube want Debo to be a good guy? No. It wouldn't be a movie without Debo. Cube made him on purpose.
 

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Not everyone interprets the Bible the same hence why there are so many different denominations and conservative Christians/progressive Christians but go off sis.

Anyways….its just to spark discussion.
Don't call me sis. I'm a man. This isn't even an interpretation detail tho. It's literally in the basic tenant of Christianity. If it doesn’t have that it's not Christianity.

God hates sin -> mankind is inherently sinful -> Jesus dies on cross to purge mankind's sins -> those who believe will be saved

That's it. That's the gospel of Christ. Every Christian denomination has to believe that in order to be Christian. Your question is ignorant.
 

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even when you are not old enough to make choices or are unsound of mind ..
or he makes loving choices for you - birth defects, accidents, disease.
as for those poor animals.
love indeed.
-If you're of unsound mind or like children you're not judged by choices since there's no intent.
-Birth defects, accidents & disease happen, nothing to do with God.
-What about animals?

-I'm not Christian though so I see no need to blame everything on God.
 

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even when you are not old enough to make choices or are unsound of mind ..

or he makes loving choices for you - birth defects, accidents, disease.

as for those poor animals.

love indeed.

:mjlol:
-If you're of unsound mind or like children you're not judged by choices since there's no intent.
-Birth defects, accidents & disease happen, nothing to do with God.
-What about animals?

-I'm not Christian though so I see no need to blame everything on God.
In Christianity at the end of the day none of this matters. Everyone is born into sin due to the first humans Adam and Eve eating fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The sin is inherited thats why only Christ can save mankind. God hates sin that's it. All those extra sins committed in people's lives is just extra shyt piled onto an existing shyt pile.
 

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-If you're of unsound mind or like children you're not judged by choices since there's no intent.

but you still suffer some consequences you dolt !!

-Birth defects, accidents & disease happen, nothing to do with God.

of course not.

-What about animals?

slow breddah.

-I'm not Christian though so I see no need to blame everything on God.

the devil is not but still ....
 

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In Christianity at the end of the day none of this matters. Everyone is born into sin due to the first humans Adam and Eve eating fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The sin is inherited thats why only Christ can save mankind. God hates sin that's it. All those extra sins committed in people's lives is just extra shyt piled onto an existing shyt pile.

yeah the unsound of mind are going to choose jesus. infants too.

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In Christianity at the end of the day none of this matters. Everyone is born into sin due to the first humans Adam and Eve eating fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The sin is inherited thats why only Christ can save mankind. God hates sin that's it. All those extra sins committed in people's lives is just extra shyt piled onto an existing shyt pile.
-Some of it does matter. Children are pure because they have no concept of sin or intent to commit it.
but you still suffer some consequences you dolt !!
of course not.
slow breddah.
the devil is not but still ....
-You talking about in life? Yeah people suffer consequences because of laws dictated by other people & their actions. God doesn't come to punish unruly children, other humans do that & their actions are based on their own free will.
-You said poor animals with no context. What's your point with bringing them up?
 

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-Some of it does matter. Children are pure because they have no concept of sin or intent to commit it.
Why does it matter? God in the Bible is not fair. And biblically speaking they have concept of sin because their ancestors ate the fruit that gave them knowledge of sin. Sin can be committed without intent.
In the context of understanding Christianity it does not matter. In the context of discerning the validity of the text and teachings of the disciples of Christ and the various prophets of Judeo-Christian faith is a whole different matter entirely.
 

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-You talking about in life? Yeah people suffer consequences because of laws dictated by other people & their actions. God doesn't come to punish unruly children, other humans do that & their actions are based on their own free will.

you did not understand what i posted.

-You said poor animals with no context. What's your point with bringing them up?

you did not understand what i posted.

do you think animals get a fair and just deal in life?

assumption: animals can feel pain and suffer.
 

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Why does it matter? God in the Bible is not fair. And biblically speaking they have concept of sin because their ancestors ate the fruit that gave them knowledge of sin. Sin can be committed without intent.
In the context of understanding Christianity it does not matter. In the context of discerning the validity of the text and teachings of the disciples of Christ and the various prophets of Judeo-Christian faith is a whole different matter entirely.
-I never said God was fair, he's clearly biased & if you believe in "His Plan" manipulative as well. I'm just curious if you're saying children aren't pure? So if an infant dies they're condemned? That's not what I read in the Bible.
 

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you did not understand what i posted.



you did not understand what i posted.

do you think animals get a fair and just deal in life?

assumption: animals can feel pain and suffer.
unless you have ever been an animal you cant truly make a claim about what they experience

and if their experience is remotely similar to people

IE why do monkeys have hands for feet?

is a clawed animal's connection through the ground though its paws?...or its claws?

Genesis 9:1-2

1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
 

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unless you have ever been an animal you cant truly make a claim about what they experience

and if their experience is remotely similar to people

IE why do monkeys have hands for feet?

is a clawed animal's connection through the ground though its paws?...or its claws?

Genesis 9:1-2

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you did not understand what i posted.
you did not understand what i posted.
do you think animals get a fair and just deal in life?
assumption: animals can feel pain and suffer.
-Then clarify exactly what you mean.

-No I don't think animals get a fair or just deal in life. In the wild it's survival of the fittest & with humans it's subjugation, sport or food. Life isn't fair to anyone.
 
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