Does Lil Wayne Use Ghostwriters? If So... How Can That Be Possible?

[wingstop]

I see what you mean, then the C4 was a bad Margi Gras hangover. I was excited when I listened to 3 of the 5 C5 singles when he brought that C2 style.

You think he ever gonna have enough focus and passion to drop another classic album, or he is just out of it dealing with Birdman?
I'm currently 50/50 on the outlook.

nah, wayne hasnt dropped a good album in a long time imo. Some of the C5 singles and leaked tracks are promising though, so hopefully its at least better than his more recent projects.

 

[Rembrandt]

I see what you mean, then the C4 was a bad Margi Gras hangover. I was excited when I listened to 3 of the 5 C5 singles when he brought that C2 style.

You think he ever gonna have enough focus and passion to drop another classic album, or he is just out of it dealing with Birdman?
I'm currently 50/50 on the outlook.

i think it's possible but i think it's gonna be drastically different from the wayne most are used to. he's gonna have to mature some aspects. i know a lot of fans love him for the stupid sex punchlines but he has a really good knack at being lyrical and making quotables that aren't really dumb punchlines, that only he can get away with. he has two fanbases that are asking for totally different things, tbh.

 

[Murkman]

Wayne is like Fabolous, Jadakiss and many other dope ass lyricist in the since that many consider his mixtapes to be his best work. The Prefix/Suffix, Dedication 1 & 2 and Da Drought 3 are the projects that come to peoples mind when they think of dope Lil Wayne shyt.

But when it comes to retail albums Tha Carter I & II are the ones people commonly cite as being major influences on them.

Damn you're right, Wayne was caving into whatever was a hot trend (Kanye really fukked up this decade in advance too) around the C3, then became a mockery of himself for 5 more years.

 

[Saint Denson]

I thought Gillie wrote fireman. The flow is just like Gillie's
I also thought Drake wrote for Wayne a bit when he first started hanging around Wayne...which is funny now since Drake has writers too.

That rumor started because Wayne rapped Drake's verse from Money To Blow at the VMAs as a shout out to Drake before it was released. Now i think I'm Single was originally Drake's song but Tune liked it and took off Drake's vocals and rewrote the song he probably kept the hook and used some of Drake's original cadence which explains why he has writing credit on it. And Gillie said himself that he never wrote for Wayne he just coached him on eastcoast lyricism.

 

[Murkman]

That rumor started because Wayne rapped Drake's verse from Money To Blow at the VMAs as a shout out to Drake before it was released. Now i think I'm Single was originally Drake's song but Tune liked it and took Drake's vocals and rewrote the song he probably kept the hook and used some of Drake's original cadence which explains why he has writing credit on it. And Gillie said himself that he never wrote for Wayne he just coached him on eastcoast lyricism.

It's fairly easy to find out who has ghostwriters when establishing a certain criteria and standards.

1. I'd start with comparing general pools of allusions and tropes made that make an emcee distinctive.
Adding onto that, to how close the artistic relationship was from the protege rapper to their ghostwriter mentor.
If the ghostwriter's careers began way before they wrote for their understudies, that is a dead giveaway.

If the references are way too similar, have a certain attitude, use the same exact slang relative to that circle, etc.
Then that isn't coincidence, they were given a "study sheet" based off of the ghostwriter's style OR they later bit off more than they couldn't chew up themselves being copycats.
Either way was the result of the ghostwriter's instruction to their roster, or someone they affiliated with in the industry. This is evident when comparing the protege's later material, upon realizing they suddenly do NOT write like that normally, which is either predictable, straight up generic, mostly wack/lazy, etc.

Ex. Compare Fat Joe doing "Lean Back" after Pun died, to later getting aired out that Pun wrote "Don Cortega" as an album, it makes complete sense logically. When you remember how much he sucked total ass in light of everyone else on Terror Squad, that fall off was a belly flop in writing standards.

Check out this article, I was shocked myself, Pun's wife is also still trying to sue him for using his name for things he never came up with himself.

10 Rappers Who Have Used Ghostwriters

 

[Saint Denson]

I see what you mean, then the C4 was a bad Margi Gras hangover. I was excited when I listened to 3 of the 5 C5 singles when he brought that C2 style.

You think he ever gonna have enough focus and passion to drop another classic album, or he is just out of it dealing with Birdman?
I'm currently 50/50 on the outlook.

Technically yes. His verses on M'$, Smuckers, Glory & No Problem show that he's still the gifted lyricist we all know and love. I think he should find a producer preferably one who plays an instrument and Really knows his way around production equipment to work with him in the compassity that Noah works with Drake or Mike Dean works with Kanye. This makes things sound cohessive and will help him develop a new sound. He should also go on a feature run with intentions of bodying everyone on every track he hops on in order to increase his buzz.

He should also drop a dope as free album/mixtape like LiveLoveAsap or So Far Gone. Usually i wouldn't recommend releasing free music for someone as accomplished as Wayne but he's in a really f*cked up position and desperate times call for desperate measures he needs to approach music like a budding new artist. I think doing all of this would make him popular again, prompt Universal to greenlight his album and also put him in the perfect headspace to drop a classic.

 

[Murkman]

@Saint Denson Cuban Link discussed that way more in detail, Joe was their "Puffy" basically.
Which makes me hate how the East Coast will constantly stand up for ghostwriting as long as it was in that era, but continue to bash other regions who do it also.

Pun, Armageddon and Link wrote "Jealous One's Envy", which was when they formed the group.

Cuban Link Remembers Big Pun on the 15th Anniversary of His Death | Mass Appeal

 

[Murkman]

Technically yes. His verses on M'$, Smuckers, Glory & No Problem show that he's still the gifted lyricist we all know and love. I think he should find a producer preferably one who plays an instrument and Really knows his way around production equipment to work with him in the compassity that Noah works with Drake or Mike Dean works with Kanye. This makes things sound cohessive and will help him develop a new sound. He should also go on a feature run with intentions of bodying everyone on every track he hops on in order to increase his buzz.

He should also drop a dope as free album/mixtape like LiveLoveAsap or So Far Gone. Usually i wouldn't recommend releasing free music for someone as accomplished as Wayne but he's in a really f*cked up position and desperate times call for desperate measures he needs to approach music like a budding new artist. I think doing all of this would make him popular again, prompt Universal to greenlight his album and also put him in the perfect headspace to drop a classic.

That C5 needs to entirely be produced by Mannie Fresh, Storch and some Bangladesh for more modern beats. Pharrell and Justice L.E.A.G.U.E. would be welcome surprises.

 

[Saint Denson]

@Saint Denson Cuban Link discussed that way more in detail, Joe was their "Puffy" basically.
Which makes me hate how the East Coast will constantly stand up for ghostwriting as long as it was in that era, but continue to bash other regions who do it also.

Pun, Armageddon and Link wrote "Jealous One's Envy", which was when they formed the group.

Cuban Link Remembers Big Pun on the 15th Anniversary of His Death | Mass Appeal

Remy Ma said she wrote for him too.

 

[Murkman]

Remy Ma said she wrote for him too.

Damn and she came in WAY LATER too.....wow I even might believe that too on "All The Way Up" which is still some outdated '07 NY shyt as far as the writing goes.
Here I am thinking that Papoose ghostwrote some of her shyt (her debut is atrocious, like no wonder she's remembered for having bars in a jail cell and not in the studio at the time).
It's more embarrassing that's her own only project too, none of this shyt makes remote sense anymore

 

[Saint Denson]

Damn and she came in WAY LATER too.....wow I even might believe that too on "All The Way Up" which is still some outdated '07 NY shyt as far as the writing goes.
Here I am thinking that Papoose ghostwrote some of her shyt (her debut is atrocious, like no wonder she's remembered for having bars in a jail cell and not in the studio at the time).
It's more embarrassing that's her own only project too, none of this shyt makes remote sense anymore

Remy is dope af and Nicki is scared shytless of her on the mic. But yeah her debut had some dope songs on it but as a project it sounded like most eastcoast albums around that time disjointed, uncohesive and lacking replay value. And Remy can rap octagons and trapezoids around Papoose, Joe and most of the dudes in the industry.

But even tho i don't really f*ck wit ghostwriter Drizzy it's crazy how much this has gone on over the years Bang Em Smuf even said that the hook for In Da Club was originally written by Lloyd Banks.