Does Rape Fantasy Come From Porn Culture?

[Malta]

yeah but i also think a lot of men misconstrue what female rape fantasies are really like. they're a lot more sensual... it's always about our man or a man we find attractive(key) "taking us" so to speak.. minimally aggressively without asking permission aka asserting his dominance. what we fantasize about almost can't even be considered "rape" because truthfully it's not rape it you WANT it.

on the other hand all that fukked up balled gagged/dehumanized/ beat up violent type scenerios that men have come up with for the porn sub culture is more the male verison of "rape fantasy" imo. which is pretty sick and telling of what's going on in certain men's heads in and of itself..

My ex used to like starting small little fights, and then say "What you gonna do" with a smirk on her face. I knew exactly what she wanted when she would do that.

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

yeah but i also think a lot of men misconstrue what female rape fantasies are really like. they're a lot more sensual... it's always about our man or a man we find attractive(key) "taking us" so to speak.. minimally aggressively without asking permission aka asserting his dominance. what we fantasize about almost can't even be considered "rape" because truthfully it's not rape it you WANT it.

on the other hand all that fukked up balled gagged/dehumanized/ beat up type scenerios that men have come up with for the porn sub culture violent stuff is more the male verison of "rape fantasy" imo. which is pretty sick and telling of what's going on in certain men's heads in and of itself..

I met plenty of chicks who were into the whole visceral degrading aspect of sex, not all women are like what you've described. A lot of women truth be told are hardcore doormats. No one wants to talk about the rape fantasy culture in literotica circles maintained by mostly women, but porn is such an easy scapegoat to attack.

 

[Anothergirl]

I met plenty of chicks who were into the whole visceral degrading aspect of sex, not all women are like what you've described. A lot of women truth be told are hardcore doormats.

never read either of those books so i can't comment. i know one girl who has a murder\rape sex fetish and she likes being slapped up and choked out during sex. not surprisingly she watched her mother murdered in front of her at age 15.

anyway point being the kinda women you're talking about with extreme degradation rape fantasies(belladonna types) almost certainly have had some kind of acute trauma during childhood. i'm talking about us normal women and our "rape fantasies"

 

[shylittlekitten]

I met plenty of chicks who were into the whole visceral degrading aspect of sex, not all women are like what you've described. A lot of women truth be told are hardcore doormats. No one wants to talk about the rape fantasy culture in literotica circles maintained by mostly women, but porn is such an easy scapegoat to attack.

50 shades of grey is softcore to BDSM enthusiasts... Trust me. It's like Twilight.

Rape fantasy is not about being a doormat, and rape fantasy was the thing over forty years ago in romance novels. Rape fantasy is talked about all the time among women.

 

[bogey_j]

50 shades of grey is softcore to BDSM enthusiasts... Trust me. It's like Twilight.

Rape fantasy is not about being a doormat, and rape fantasy was the thing over forty years ago in romance novels. Rape fantasy is talked about all the time among women.

I knew 50 shades of grey couldn't be hardcore if someone like my mom reads it so its like pop BDSM for the masses?

and@the bold, how is it not about turning someone into an object to be used and thrown away afterwards? I thought that was the point

 

[shylittlekitten]

I knew 50 shades of grey couldn't be hardcore if someone like my mom reads it so its like pop BDSM for the masses?

and@the bold, how is it not about turning someone into an object to be used and thrown away afterwards? I thought that was the point

yes basically....

I guess this is a fundamental misunderstanding between men and women. In a rape fantasy, a woman is in control of what happens. A woman is able to control how hard and visceral a man is, how rough they are. A woman controls how they fukk her, etc. A man might come in and "take her," but she chooses to be taken. Whereas rape in real life is completely different. Even when a rape fantasy is reinacted with a couple, a woman is choosing to be taken and she can tell a guy to stop at any time (otherwise it becomes real life rape).

As I said in BDSM culture a sub is in a lot of control despite what mainstream culture thinks. Subs and doms create sex contracts which detail how far they will go and what sex acts are allowed and not allowed. Subs are very much in control.

 

[Anothergirl]

yes basically....

I guess this is a fundamental misunderstanding between men and women. In a rape fantasy, a woman is in control of what happens. A woman is able to control how hard and visceral a man is, how rough they are. A woman controls how they fukk her, etc. A man might come in and "take her," but she chooses to be taken. Whereas rape in real life is completely different. Even when a rape fantasy is reinacted with a couple, a woman is choosing to be taken and she can tell a guy to stop at any time (otherwise it becomes real life rape).

exactly. that's the discrepancy between what men seem to think women fantasize about and what we actually fantasize about. they hear "rape fantasy" and immeadiately assume it's like the scene out of "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" movie.
uh no...our "rape fantasies" are nothing like that.

 

[bogey_j]

yes basically....

I guess this is a fundamental misunderstanding between men and women. In a rape fantasy, a woman is in control of what happens. A woman is able to control how hard and visceral a man is, how rough they are. A woman controls how they fukk her, etc. A man might come in and "take her," but she chooses to be taken. Whereas rape in real life is completely different. Even when a rape fantasy is reinacted with a couple, a woman is choosing to be taken and she can tell a guy to stop at any time (otherwise it becomes real life rape).

As I said in BDSM culture a sub is in a lot of control despite what mainstream culture thinks. Subs and doms create sex contracts which detail how far they will go and what sex acts are allowed and not allowed. Subs are very much in control.

you have to understand, these mixed messages women send can be very confusing. rape is all about a loss of control..in my primitive male mind if a woman wants to simulate rape and then says to stop, if the guy keeps going, wouldn't that turn her on even more? where's the passion if she's always firmly in control?

I know what you're saying but in a way its like get the fukk outta here with that shyt

 

[Black Magisterialness]

exactly. that's the discrepancy between what men seem to think women fantasize about and what we actually fantasize about. they hear "rape fantasy" and immeadiately assume it's like the scene out of "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" movie.
uh no...our "rape fantasies" are nothing like that.

weeeelll.....i know this one chick...

 

[Anothergirl]

weeeelll.....i know this one chick...

yeah i addressed "those types" already. $100 bucks says she was raped or molested down the line in her past if she gets off on that kind violence.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

yeah i addressed "those types" already. $100 bucks says she was raped or molested down the line in her past if she gets off on that kind violence.

nope she just does alot of coke

 

[shylittlekitten]

you have to understand, these mixed messages women send can be very confusing. rape is all about a loss of control..in my primitive male mind if a woman wants to simulate rape and then says to stop, if the guy keeps going, wouldn't that turn her on even more? where's the passion if she's always firmly in control?

I know what you're saying but in a way its like get the fukk outta here with that shyt

Well I assume a woman with a rape fantasy would wait until you'd have been in the relationship with her for a while and would have discussed it with you for quite a while before going through with everything. People with these kind of fantasies don't whip them out and say okay, now pretend you're raping me.

 

[bright black]

rape fantasies is a white woman thing that come from them wanting sex but not wanting to initiate the encounter...the myth of white womanhood created a sexual dysfunction in white women that is manifest in fantasies about being raped...

 

[bogey_j]

Well I assume a woman with a rape fantasy would wait until you'd have been in the relationship with her for a while and would have discussed it with you for quite a while before going through with everything. People with these kind of fantasies don't whip them out and say okay, now pretend you're raping me.

you didn't answer my question. since this "reenactment" is taking place with someone she trusts and is attracted to (as opposed to some random slimeball on the street) wouldn't the loss of control be an even bigger turn on for her? WTF is this 'stop' shyt in a rape fantasy?

if a chick asked me to simulate rape with her i'm gonna let her know from the jump she's gonna get raped for real. if she really wanted to live out that fantasy 'stop' wouldn't be in my vocabulary

 

[bogey_j]

rape fantasies is a white woman thing that come from them wanting sex but not wanting to initiate the encounter...the myth of white womanhood created a sexual dysfunction in white women that is manifest in fantasies about being raped...

what do you mean "the myth of white womanhood"?

anyways I disgree wholeheartedly. rape fanasty is a woman thing in general bruh, not just white women. like someone said previously, the japanese are all about that shyt.