Does Riley Attempting To Make Miami The 1994 Bulls Make Sense?

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And exactly what level is Chris Bosh on? Grant was most certainly a better 3rd option PF than Bosh. Bosh is a better offensive player and more capable of putting up all-star numbers on a lottery/quick 1st round exit team. You wanna say Bosh is better than fine but to act as if he's far and away better is just silly.
Chris Bosh is a far and away better player, breh, don't let that nostalgia fool you. Horace Grant could never be a first option on your team, even a lottery one.
 

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Using the 94 Bulls players template, Riley might be losing his Kukoc in Ray Allen even at the end of his career he's still a great contributor of the bench. I doubt even a prime Wade could lead the league in most stats the way PIp did and we aren't even talking about a prime Wade so this alone hurts their chances when the focal point of the offense is in question but Wade like Pippen was the consummate teammate and he might not care about being 'the man' and letting Chalmers and Bosh have bigger roles in the offense.
 

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Chris Bosh is a far and away better player, breh, don't let that nostalgia fool you. Horace Grant could never be a first option on your team, even a lottery one.

Breh anybody could be the first option on a lottery team...literally anybody. :heh: What makes him far and away better? Grant was the superior rebounder and interior defender and while he didn't have the offensive game Bosh has dude was automatic from 15 and most importantly he was tough which is what you need most from a 3rd option PF. Bosh is better offensively and in the pick and roll on D but he's soft as q-tip cotton. Their numbers as 3rd options are comparable and Bosh wasn't exactly Tim Duncan as the 1st option in Toronto so again I ask what makes him far and way better?
 
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I'm an old head, and I grew up on late 80's to the early 00's ball. Sonetimes I admit I will give a nicca I grew up watching the edge over a current player. Never in my life though would I EVER fix my mouth to say Horace Grant and Chris Bosh are comparable players. I know Bosh has been a 7 foot Steve Kerr lately, but Horace Grant? Dude made his money hitting wide open 10-15 foot jumpers and banging. He was a slightly better Haslem.
 

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depends on wade, he's a much different player (if healthy) without lebron.
 

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But if he gives Wade anything more than 15 mill a year, we could find ourselves in the exact same position as the Lakers

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Nah this team will be fighting for seeds lakers are giving up on the 3rd season in a row big difference
 

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Unlike the lakers we don't just give up he's trying to make the best team possible with what he has and as a fan you can't ask for anything else

Apparently Riley doing his job is now a bad thing, the internet, man I tell ya :mjlol:
 

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WELL THE EAST IS WIDE OPEN
SO WHY NOT GIVE IT ANOTHER SHOT?

THERES NO DOMINANT FAVORITE IN THE EAST RIGHT NOW
UNTIL ROSE SHOWS HE WONT GET HURT AGAIN....

CAN THAT CURRENT CLEVELAND ROSTER WITH MOSTLY NO PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE BEAT THIS HEAT TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS?
HEAT ARE STILL A TOP 3 EC TEAM IMO.
:devil:
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this is 100% true right here.
Minus lebron we have a better team than the Cavs right now.
Although whose to say how well Wiggins turns or how much Chemistry
Kyrie has with LBJ.
At this point i wouldn't put too much faith in the Cavs.
The heat have just as good a chance as any other team as of right now.
Especially if Wade is able to snatch that alpha dog status back.
without lebron i fully expect bosh and wade to both average at least 20 each per game.
if we have that, plus deng's scoring. all we need is some rebounding and defense to compete.
 

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The difficult thing about the Heat and rebuilding is that Spoelstra struggles with developing young talent and seemingly refuses to develop consistent rotations. He'll have guys play 30 mins a game for 5 games and then they wont see action for a month after that. Its hard to get into a rhythm like that. Michael Beasley for example...now I know the nikka got/had some issues, I know this. But I'm a legit heat fan and I watched Spo botch that dude by yanking him out of games for one mistake and gluing him to the bench for games after that. Conversely, you'd see someone like Kevin Durant be able to go out and get 35 mins + from the jump and struggle on shytty teams for a few years. He developed as a result. The heat ain't bout that rebuilding life, especially with a guy like D.wade on deck. I remember going to a game with no D.wade...Beas was ballin' in the first 3 quarters and saw no action in the fourth while we relied on the corpse of Jermaine Oneal for our offense. You saw it last year. Spo hit the panic button and played Beas in game 5 after not playing him for the whole damn playoffs.. we clearly could've used that offense earlier but you rather play Rashard? And shyt, we could've used the D but no Haslem or Battie for games ...Lebron covered up a shytload of frustrating strategy/rotation gaffes by Spo and I think this year alot of that shyt is gone come to a head. But blowing it up is not an option with D.wade and Spo around. They rather get them 45 games and first round exit then have to start from the bottom. Hence, giving Bosh 118 mil. They're gonna make moves over the next couple years tho. Riles figures shyt out. Its never going to happen through the draft or with really young talent tho. They aint tryna be bothered with that.
 
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Bosh finally gets his dream to become an official 2-guard:troll:

...for DHolmes to turn back into Flash, his HGH will need to be made out of mirakuru:duck:
 
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Should have let Bosh walk and tanked, but Riley is not known for tanking. fukk it, here's to a 44 win team and a second round exit, even if trying to be competitive will hurt this team in the long run.
 

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Breh anybody could be the first option on a lottery team...literally anybody. :heh: What makes him far and away better? Grant was the superior rebounder and interior defender and while he didn't have the offensive game Bosh has dude was automatic from 15 and most importantly he was tough which is what you need most from a 3rd option PF. Bosh is better offensively and in the pick and roll on D but he's soft as q-tip cotton. Their numbers as 3rd options are comparable and Bosh wasn't exactly Tim Duncan as the 1st option in Toronto so again I ask what makes him far and way better?
LOL, get ALL the way the fukk outta here.

How is Horace Grant a better or comparable 3rd option? Unlike Horace Grant, Chris Bosh has the ability to take over a game or isolate and hit big shots to win the game, which he's actually done. Horace Grant can stand on the baseline and shoot wide open jump shots.

You're letting those 90svision goggles fool you breh.
 

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The difficult thing about the Heat and rebuilding is that Spoelstra struggles with developing young talent and seemingly refuses to develop consistent rotations. He'll have guys play 30 mins a game for 5 games and then they wont see action for a month after that. Its hard to get into a rhythm like that. Michael Beasley for example...now I know the nikka got/had some issues, I know this. But I'm a legit heat fan and I watched Spo botch that dude by yanking him out of his games for one mistake and gluing him to the bench for games after that. Conversely, you'd see someone like Kevin Durant be able to go out and get 35 mins + from the jump and struggle on shytty teams for a few years. He developed as a result. The heat ain't bout that rebuilding life, especially with a guy like D.wade on deck. I remember going to a game with no D.wade...Beas was ballin' in the first 3 quarters and saw no action in the fourth while we relied on the corpse of Jermaine Oneal for our offense. You saw it last year. Spo hit the panic button and played Beas in game 5 after not playing him for the whole damn playoffs.. we clearly could've used that offense earlier but you rather play Rashard? And shyt, we could've used the D but no Haslem or Battie for games ...Lebron covered up a shytload of frustrating strategy/rotation gaffes by Spo and I think this year alot of that shyt is gone come to a head. But blowing it up is not an option with D.wade and Spo around. They rather get them 45 games and first round exit then have to start from the bottom. Hence, giving Bosh 118 mil. They're gonna make moves over the next couple years tho. Riles figures shyt out. Its never going to happen through the draft or with really young talent tho. They aint tryna be bothered with that.
as a heat fan, i have to say that beasley is among the worst players in the enitre league.
the less we see him on the court, the better.
dude is garbage. Spo made the right move.
 

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LOL, get ALL the way the fukk outta here.

How is Horace Grant a better or comparable 3rd option? Unlike Horace Grant, Chris Bosh has the ability to take over a game or isolate and hit big shots to win the game, which he's actually done. Horace Grant can stand on the baseline and shoot wide open jump shots.

You're letting those 90svision goggles fool you breh.

No you are letting "everybody calls him a superstar and he has put up some perty numbers" goggles fool you. I explained to you why Grant was a comparable 3rd option and acknowledged Bosh's advantages. You have yet to explain what makes Bosh "far and away" better as a 3rd option. Since when do you look to 3rd options to take over games? That's what the top 2 options are for. And since he's so good at taking over games where was it in the Finals? Where was it against Indy last year? Where was it throughout the year when Wade was out and they were racking up L's to inferior opponents? Lemme guess he saves that for random games in February right? Toughness on the interior is far more important for a team whose top two guys are perimeter oriented than yet another guy who can score on the perimeter.
 
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