doggystyle is better than illmatic

[O.G.B]

What's not the point?

Method Man was more well known than Nas in 1994. He was part of a group that blew up in the year leading up to his solo album. He had a smash hit single with one of the biggest R&B stars of the era. There's no logical reason Nas should have sold more than him with Illmatic

Are you really this stupid? No one ever mentioned that Nas was supposed to sell more records than Method Man, but the fact that it took Illmatic nearly 2 years to become RIAA certified Gold, in the heyday of rap, speaks volumes.

Furthermore, there were also numerous hip hop artists in 1994 that were lesser or just as well known than Nas, who didn't have the Source Magazine 5 Mic seal of approval, yet still reached RIAA Gold/Platinum status before Nas & Illmatic.



Therefore, I don't think you really want to go down the road with comparisons vs which hip hop artist were more/less known/popular during 1994 & their RIAA certifications based on sales numbers/units.

It's funny, you can spot the people who weren't actually there for the 90s. But Method Man was one of the biggest stars in hip hop from around 1994-2001. Had multiple platinum solo albums, a platinum plus duo album with Redman, was the biggest star in a group that had a pair of 4x platinum albums, was on TV and movies. But now dudes act like he was some sort of underground act or something.

I'm a O.G. nikka, so you can miss with your useless biography.

At the end of the day, it's obvious that you're just another Nas Stan trying to derail the topic with meaningless trivial babble, which has nothing to do with Nas album Ilmatic, flopping on the sales & record charts during one of the most celebrated eras of hip hop.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

NAS
Title: ILLMATIC
Certification Date: January 28, 2019
Label: COLUMBIA
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.April 19, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 2 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
2x Multi-Platinum | January 28, 2019
Platinum | December 11, 2001
Gold | January 17, 1996


COOLIO
Title: IT TAKES A THIEF
Certification Date: October 7, 1994
Label: TOMMY BOY
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.July 19, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 1 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
Platinum | October 7, 1994
Gold | September 20, 1994


DA BRAT
Title: FUNKDAFIED
Certification Date: January 6, 1995
Label: COLUMBIA
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.June 28, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 1 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
Platinum | January 6, 1995
Gold | October 21, 1994

OUTKAST
Title: SOUTHERNPLAYALISTICADILLACMUZIK
Certification Date: April 5, 1995
Label: LAFACE
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.April 26, 1994
Category: GROUP
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 1 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
Platinum | April 5, 1995
Gold | June 28, 1994


WARREN G
Title: REGULATE ... G FUNK ERA
Certification Date: August 1, 1995
Label: VIOLATOR/RAL
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.June 7, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 3 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
3x Multi-Platinum | August 1, 1995
2x Multi-Platinum | August 24, 1994
Platinum | August 24, 1994
Gold | August 24, 1994

NOTORIOUS B.I.G.
Title: READY TO DIE
Certification Date: April 4, 2018
Label: BAD BOY/RHINO
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.September 13, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 6 Million
Genre: R&B/HIP HOP
Previous Certification:
6x Multi-Platinum | April 4, 2018
5x Multi-Platinum | April 4, 2018
4x Multi-Platinum | October 19, 1999
3x Multi-Platinum | August 26, 1998
2x Multi-Platinum | October 16, 1995
Platinum | March 14, 1995
Gold | November 16, 1994

METHOD MAN
Title: TICAL
Certification Date: July 13, 1995
Label: DEF JAM
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.November 8, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 1 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
Platinum | July 13, 1995
Gold | January 18, 1995

BONE THUGS 'N HARMONY
Title: CREEPIN' ON AH COME UP
Certification Date: December 4, 1995
Label: RUTHLESS
Format: SHORT FORM ALBUM
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Release Date.June 21, 1994
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 4 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
4x Multi-Platinum | December 4, 1995
3x Multi-Platinum | March 31, 1995
2x Multi-Platinum | December 2, 1994
Platinum | September 21, 1994
Gold | September 21, 1994


Damn Nas was getting left behind. Good thing the media kept talking him up.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

All the above are debut albums, that did their thing more than nas, but year after year cac owned, Asians empowering, bias media outlets brainwashed you all into thinking illmatic was running 1994

 

[Flav]

at the never ending record sales conversation

Both albums are all time classics but Illmatic had zero crossover appeal and didn't attempt to.

Whereas Doggystyle had multiple catchy made for radio tracks that hooked listeners who weren't that into rap. Snoop was a huge star before it even dropped off guest starring on The Chronic, that's still one of the biggest rap albums of all time.

Got no issue with anyone picking Doggystyle but this obsession with record sales in talking quality of music gets old. Guess Please Hammer Don't Hurt Em is better than both then

I really don’t give a sht about sales. I tell people the same thing you saying. Is Vanilla Ice better than Rakim because he sold more? But to be in this topic acting like bootleggers killed Nas sales and

They stalled on giving Nas his platinum status for Illmatic by years is total bullsht.

 

[Sccit]

DOGGYSTYLE EASY

 

[Flav]

Damn Nas was getting left behind. Good thing the media kept talking him up.

NOOO, IT WAS THE BOOTLEGGERS FAULT!

PLUS HE GOT HIS PLATINUM PLAQUE LATE!

 

[Mike Wins]

I really don’t give a sht about sales. I tell people the same thing you saying. Is Vanilla Ice better than Rakim because he sold more? But to be in this topic acting like bootleggers killed Nas sales and

They stalled on giving Nas his platinum status for Illmatic by years is total bullsht.

Don't disagree at all. Illmatic is a great album that always had critical acclaim and eventually got commercial recognition and went double plat, there's no reason to argue over that

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Don't disagree at all. Illmatic is a great album that always had critical acclaim and eventually got commercial recognition and went double plat, there's no reason to argue over that

And by critics you mean Asian hookers at white owned magazines? And by double platinum you mean so called classics that took 25 years to go double platinum, knee deep into it streaming Era.? Even though they came out when hip hop was taking over?

 

[Mike Wins]

Are you really this stupid? No one ever mentioned that Nas was supposed to sell more records than Method Man, but the fact that it took Illmatic nearly 2 years to become RIAA certified Gold, in the heyday of rap, speaks volumes.

Furthermore, there were also numerous hip hop artists in 1994 that were lesser or just as well known than Nas, who didn't have the Source Magazine 5 Mic seal of approval, yet still reached RIAA Gold/Platinum status before Nas & Illmatic.



Therefore, I don't think you really want to go down the road with comparisons vs which hip hop artist were more/less known/popular during 1994 & their RIAA certifications based on sales numbers/units.





I'm a O.G. nikka, so you can miss with your useless biography.

At the end of the day, it's obvious that you're just another Nas Stan trying to derail the topic with meaningless trivial babble, which has nothing to do with Nas album Ilmatic, flopping on the sales & record charts during one of the most celebrated eras of hip hop.

You said a lot without saying anything.

Outside of NYC, Method Man was a much bigger name than Nas in 1994. He also had the R&B crossover megahit that Nas lacked.

It's obvious why Method Man sold more copies in 1984 and 1995.

It's also obvious why Nas album from 1994 has since doubled up Meth's in sales.

Illmatic is a much better album than Tical and has aged better. It just took longer for national and international audiences to catch on due to the lack of a MTV/BET/radio hit single.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

You said a lot without saying anything.

Outside of NYC, Method Man was a much bigger name than Nas in 1994. He also had the R&B crossover megahit that Nas lacked.

It's obvious why Method Man sold more copies in 1984 and 1995.

It's also obvious why Nas album from 1994 has since doubled up Meth's in sales.

Illmatic is a much better album than Tical and has aged better. It just took longer for national and international audiences to catch on due to the lack of a MTV/BET/radio hit single.

It's really no better

 

[Mike Wins]

And by critics you mean Asian hookers at white owned magazines? And by double platinum you mean so called classics that took 25 years to go double platinum, knee deep into it streaming Era.? Even though they came out when hip hop was taking over?

What are you babbling about? What's your point? Do you have one? Is your argument that Tical > Illmatic and Meth > Nas because Meth sold more records in 1994?

Like your homey you seem to got the gift of jibber jabbering without saying a thing

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

What are you babbling about? What's your point? Do you have one? Is your argument that Tical > Illmatic and Meth > Nas because Meth sold more records in 1994?

Like your homey you seem to got the gift of jibber jabbering without saying a thing

I think Nas is the better rapper, I think their debuts are equally average. But method album was definitely more relevant.

 

[Monoblock]

Both classics and have to be in a certain mood to listen to either.

Spoiler

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Both classics and have to be in a certain mood to listen to either.

Spoiler

Naw, doggystyle is classic in every possible way. Ilmatic was a minor footnote in that Era and the east coast bias media, successfully rewrote history year after year, allowing a flop up become "classic". This courtesy is only extended to East coast flops, in that mid nineties era. Others, largely get swept under the rug, regardless of quality. Examples: dj quik 90's albums, too shorts, spice 1's early mid 90's,Thug life and countless others.

 

[Monoblock]

Naw, doggystyle is classic in every possible way. Ilmatic was a minor footnote in that Era and the east coast bias media, successfully rewrote history year after year, allowing a flop up become "classic". This courtesy is only extended to East coast flops, in that mid nineties era. Others, largely get swept under the rug, regardless of quality. Examples: dj quik 90's albums, too shorts, spice 1's early mid 90's,Thug life and countless others.

Whatever you say man but no need to belittle one to big up another.