Doing a song with Justin Bieber as much of a sell out as Starships

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you basically lose some integrity. According to you, a country artist can make a rap album. An alternative rock band can make an opera record. Nicki is made starships for the sole purpose of getting money. Thats where the sell out part comes into play because starships and songs like starships is what gets her doing cameo's with Madona and exands her fan base to 13 year old white chicks. You end up alienating one fan base to cater to another and in the end you will eventually lose both.

kid rock when from rap metal to country and he was pretty successfull, also pitbull wasnt that big when he was doing crunk music so sometimes changing your style is a good thing
 

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I don't know why its a sellout move like that..
I don't know much about his type of music, but from what I've heard his an acceptable artist with a few skills.. He's not making sellout music, with techno beats like Chris Brown for example.

So really working with him is as big of a sellout move as working with any pop/rnb star like Rihanna, CB or less known singers.
The only problem is that he's very famous and white.
 

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My bad,sleepy when i wrote this.

I meant to say:

"naw but that was some cornball shyt. and i'm very confident he did it hoping it would help him. Picture some young UNKNOWN white dweeb asking to collab with him. I couldnt see him doing it just to collab with the lil white boy. I think kanye did the asking. But i feel he only agreed cause it seemed like a good business move" shyt was mad corny to me though.


POINT IS HE DID IT AS A SELL OUT MOVE TO ADVANCE AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON HE'D TAKE THAT RISK. I DONT THINK HE'D DO THAT IF HE WAS REALLY ON AND POPPIN RIGHT NOW.

A good business move how? Advance his career how? So you seriously expected 1 song with Justin Bieber to cross him over when he drops music like this:



....and dropped 3 mixtapes the same year as the song with Bieber....Vatican Vol 1, Cocainism Vol.2, and Coke Up in da Dollar Bill?

You're actually sitting there arguing that he hoped to cross over and/or "advance his career since he wasn't poppin" by doing 1 song with Bieber, even though since then he's only released "Shaolin vs Wu-Tang" and 3 street mixtapes, with names like COKE UP IN DA DOLLAR BILL?

I mean....what the fukk? All I see in this thread is people talking in circles without really explaining anything.

Fred.
 
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U think we gon give this hatin azz nikka Raekwon a pass:rudy:? He didn't have a problem talkin about how wack nikkas wuz,how soft nikkas music wuz,then turn around and do a song with Kanye and Bieber,soft azz rappin nikka and a pop star? Its different when sumbody who's not a known hater records with a act like Bieber....when u wanna act like a critic for what's real hiphop,what's real and what isn't u open up that gate on yourself...its a difference in a preacher cheatin on his woman daily and me doing it....people have higher standards for u bcuz u told them they should have higher standards for theyself....then u doin songs with 16 yr old white boys lol...and people clowned that black dude for duin that "its Friday Friday,today is Friday" song....I got more respect for him then Raekwon now...that'll wear off soon but its too soon right now.
 

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U think we gon give this hatin azz nikka Raekwon a pass:rudy:? He didn't have a problem talkin about how wack nikkas wuz,how soft nikkas music wuz,then turn around and do a song with Kanye and Bieber,soft azz rappin nikka and a pop star? Its different when sumbody who's not a known hater records with a act like Bieber....when u wanna act like a critic for what's real hiphop,what's real and what isn't u open up that gate on yourself...its a difference in a preacher cheatin on his woman daily and me doing it....people have higher standards for u bcuz u told them they should have higher standards for theyself....then u doin songs with 16 yr old white boys lol...and people clowned that black dude for duin that "its Friday Friday,today is Friday" song....I got more respect for him then Raekwon now...that'll wear off soon but its too soon right now.
well i dont have to respond now,great post
 

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:smh: at this thread...this is why u hipsters will NEVER get my respect :pacspit:

Raekwon doing a song with Bieber is no different then when T.I. worked with Timberlake or when Biggie worked with MJ or when Rick Ross works with Usher, etc

If the music is good that is ALL that matters..

That Runaway Love (G.O.O.D Friday Remix) was :fire: fukk what you heard..a majority of people liked it..and the majority of folks that hated the song are hipster "real hip-hop" fans..:scusthov:

and plus..they took out the Wu-Tang sample and replaced it with the original beat on the official release of the remix..smart move. Could u imagine 12 or 13 year old kids opening the booklet and reading the credits that says "This song contains a portion of Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nothin' To fukk With"..the look on those parents faces? :ohlawd:

And plus it ain't like Raekwon's music changed..he remained the same nikka...

Unlike Nicki Minaj, who literally sold out just to double her dollars and COMPLETELY alienating her main fan base without a fukk in the world...

So yeah..Raekwon sold out :childplease:
 

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Rae is possibly my favorite MC of all time but the hate for the Bieber track is 100% justified.

The problem with Rae is that other dudes in the industry give him so much respect that he gets trigger shy when it comes time to shyt on wack nikkas like Ross, Bieber, Kanye etc.... this the same nikka that shyt on Biggie and almost had him murdered over rap beef.

Because maybe he doesn't feel the same way about them as you do and maybe he feels he's above inheriting beef from fans he doesn't know :yeshrug:
 

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well i dont have to respond now,great post

That was a great post? :comeon:

Like I said, all I see is people talking in circles...."Raekwon sold out!"...."ok, how though?...."it's Justin Bieber!"....."ok, how did he sell out though, when his music stayed exactly the same?"...."uh, it's Justin Bieber!".

Yeah, great post. :beli:

Fred.
 

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I cant believe you nikkas is disrepecting Biebs
 

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Rae was gonna shoot Biggie at a club back in the days. Him and Ghost hated Biggie for the simple fact that he was their competition, biggie got the source cover and it read "king of new york"

Rae is dam near 40, if not older. He ain't trying to do dumb shyt he did when he was 22...too much negative energy. He got a family to provide for.

so cut that beef shyt out :shake:
 

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Justin bieber has more respect for real hiphop than nicki minaj

justin beebah don't know shyt about hip hop. this nikka talking about big and pac are his favorite in mc's, if pac was alive and beebah tried to do a song with him he'd :pacspit:

It's about paying dues and earning respect. This cac is exploiting hip hop for his own gain. What Timberlake did and what Beebah is doing is not the same. Robin Thicke and beebah, not the same. And Kid Rock came up in a different era.. He left hip hop because he had no choice.
 
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